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The statement "I don't have enough faith to be an atheist" reflects a perspective that argues belief in atheism requires more faith than belief in Christianity. This idea is explored in the book "I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist" by Norman Geisler and Frank Turek, where they assert that Christianity is the most reasonable worldview and requires the least faith compared to atheism. The authors argue that many aspects of reality and morality are better explained through a theistic framework than through atheism.
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Yeah it's called logic. Do you understand the concept of a God? Even the pagans do. Yeah I pray sitting down and standing, depending in the situation. Why do you think my body position matters? The important part is that I'm communicating with God!
Yeah, some people are so happy that they would beat their wives or become a suicide bomber to harm others. Is that something you would gladly join? I've spoken with both types and have seen the stark difference. I've also seen how the Buddhist reacts surprised at how happy we Christians are. A happiness scanner? Yeah, I call them eyes and ears.

You are simply someone who automatically denied God to be real without any proof and then you went shopping at the Bart Ehrman store that is more closely aligned with your lack of knowledge rather how he actually is. Essentially you picked delusion over knowledge and picked a lie over the truth to worship based on your personal preferences...Trump Supporter.


The exercise was for you to put yourself in the shoes of a skeptic or someone who never encountered religion or god/s concept and to figure out which of the 1000 religions are authentic (if any).
And your first thought was to believe in god without even meeting any of the stalls. Not only that you walked around the market with predefined criteria how gods and their followers should behave. This is complete confirmation bias. You were not open to hearing the beliefs or figuring out what the truth might actually be. You came to project your own beliefs and reject anything that didn't align with your own thinking.

Now if you had any self reflection you would conclude that you are a close minded individual who weren't able to set aside your personal beliefs even as a thought exercise. Some would call that a cult like behavior.

I don't believe in god simply because there is no valid reason for me to think he is real. Why would I believe in something first without proof? That makes 0 sense. I am not a cultist who is going to brainwash myself just because someone asked me. Provide proof then we can talk, if not then gtfo grifter.

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Romans 15:5

Now may the God who gives perseverance and encouragement grant you to be of the same mind with one another according to Christ Jesus.
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It is obviously a made up story from collections of writings with many unknown unverified authors. Translated and curated by several councils of men who decided what is to be included or excluded. Mainly so it's more palatable for an average pleb in order to control them.

If you step back and look at it as a whole it is nothing more then a bedtime story for adults to behave in a certain manner. It is one of many (thousands) of religions. Just about everyone on the planet had mythological story of some kind that they shared around the campfire. Everyone thinks theirs is the best and the one true religion, just like hardcore sports fans cheer for their home team.
As an outsider who isn't affiliated with any of these archaic dogmas it is obvious that none of them are the best or real. Observing here people in pard you will notice there is a distinct tribal conflict between left vs right.

The purpose of this thread is to explore the contradictions, make light of the magical story and to hopefully bring awareness to the religious fans who seem to be under the spell that their invisible dad is real.

Lets begin!


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The exercise was for you to put yourself in the shoes of a skeptic or someone who never encountered religion or god/s concept and to figure out which of the 1000 religions are authentic (if any).
And your first thought was to believe in god without even meeting any of the stalls. Not only that you walked around the market with predefined criteria how gods and their followers should behave. This is complete confirmation bias. You were not open to hearing the beliefs or figuring out what the truth might actually be. You came to project your own beliefs and reject anything that didn't align with your own thinking.

Now if you had any self reflection you would conclude that you are a close minded individual who weren't able to set aside your personal beliefs even as a thought exercise. Some would call that a cult like behavior.

I don't believe in god simply because there is no valid reason for me to think he is real. Why would I believe in something first without proof? That makes 0 sense. I am not a cultist who is going to brainwash myself just because someone asked me. Provide proof then we can talk, if not then gtfo grifter.


Oh please, alright why don't we do a comparison and you tell me which one you would consider to be what God would have us do and worth following?

Quran 4:34

Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) strike them; but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).

Ephesians 5:22-33

Wives and Husbands
22 Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands.

25 Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, 26 that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, 27 so that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish. 28 In the same way husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ does the church, 30 because we are members of his body. 31 “Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.” 32 This mystery is profound, and I am saying that it refers to Christ and the church. 33 However, let each one of you love his wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband.

There are plenty of valid reasons to believe in God. You are still dead in your sins and you cannot save yourself.

You say you want proof? Let's start with this post which you never responded to: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107619089&f=119&p=683524870#p683524870

Have you ever heard of something called Egyptian Chariot wheels in the Red Sea that are covered by corals? You should look it up sometime.

You want more proof? Here you go:



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Oh please, alright why don't we do a comparison and you tell me which one you would consider to be what God would have us do and worth following?

Quran 4:34

Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) strike them; but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).

Ephesians 5:22-33

Wives and Husbands
22 Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands.

25 Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, 26 that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, 27 so that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish. 28 In the same way husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ does the church, 30 because we are members of his body. 31 “Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.” 32 This mystery is profound, and I am saying that it refers to Christ and the church. 33 However, let each one of you love his wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband.

There are plenty of valid reasons to believe in God. You are still dead in your sins and you cannot save yourself.

You say you want proof? Let's start with this post which you never responded to: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107619089&f=119&p=683524870#p683524870

Have you ever heard of something called Egyptian Chariot wheels in the Red Sea that are covered by corals? You should look it up sometime.

You want more proof? Here you go:

https://i.imgur.com/k8ibuOY.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/9fZ9Yse.png


I obviously choose option C. To not have faith in any religion until it can show me concrete proof.
That is the only rational/logical option. You chose A with an already convinced mind. Once you adopt a belief you no longer question its validity/authenticity you begin looking for any ways to justify it even though it might be fake.

This simple thought experiment just revealed how much close minded you really are. You couldn't even pretend to be skeptical. Which means you didn't really test the authenticity of your own religion. You were just a byproduct of grooming and emotional blackmail over years of programming to the point where you do not even question anything anymore. Just like a bot.

You cannot be reasoned with it is equivalent to talking to a wall therefore I wish you best of luck.


Might answer one of your long winded posts about corals even though you refuse to summarize it, I suspect it will be yet another nothing burger with more baseless claims but know that you have nothing of substance only empty words and it will be purely for entertainment.
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I obviously choose option C. To not have faith in any religion until it can show me concrete proof.
That is the only rational/logical option. You chose A with an already convinced mind. Once you adopt a belief you no longer question its validity/authenticity you begin looking for any ways to justify it even though it might be fake.

This simple thought experiment just revealed how much close minded you really are. You couldn't even pretend to be skeptical. Which means you didn't really test the authenticity of your own religion. You were just a byproduct of grooming and emotional blackmail over years of programming to the point where you do not even question anything anymore. Just like a bot.

You cannot be reasoned with it is equivalent to talking to a wall therefore I wish you best of luck.


Might answer one of your long winded posts about corals even though you refuse to summarize it, I suspect it will be yet another nothing burger with more baseless claims but know that you have nothing of substance only empty words and it will be purely for entertainment.


See how you dodged answering the comparison? That's my point, you will do anything to avoid answering these questions asked of you. You will either deflect or dodge. You've already been given concrete proof, his name is Jesus.

We've already been through the what if Christ was not raised? I asked you to provide evidence that Christ was not raised, hence that would completely dismantle Christianity. I then said before you say it's not up to you to provide proof, you did make this thread attacking the validity of Christianity.

Guess how you responded...nothing at all. We've also been through you cannot come up with your own set of arguments. All you can do is copy and paste Bart Ehrman and upload Facebook memes. You literally stand for nothing so you will fall for anything.

You want to know what grooming would be? Grooming would be us not allowed to question any of the text written, being told to believe, no questions asked. More than a decade ago, the Church I went to did a series of 10 questions that non-believers asked of Christians and we did a 10 week series of tackling each question.

I just so happened to take notes on every single question for your viewing pleasure: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67022928&f=125&o=0#p449254948

When it comes to the Chariots you claimed this:

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They were shipwreck debris from ships like the Ulysses or SS Carnatic from 19th century.


I then debunked that theory based on where those shipwrecks lie, then you never responded. You still continue to dodge to this very day.
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See how you dodged answering the comparison? That's my point, you will do anything to avoid answering these questions asked of you. You will either deflect or dodge. You've already been given concrete proof, his name is Jesus.

We've already been through the what if Christ was not raised? I asked you to provide evidence that Christ was not raised, hence that would completely dismantle Christianity. I then said before you say it's not up to you to provide proof, you did make this thread attacking the validity of Christianity.

Guess how you responded...nothing at all. We've also been through you cannot come up with your own set of arguments. All you can do is copy and paste Bart Ehrman and upload Facebook memes. You literally stand for nothing so you will fall for anything.

You want to know what grooming would be? Grooming would be us not allowed to question any of the text written, being told to believe, no questions asked. More than a decade ago, the Church I went to did a series of 10 questions that non-believers asked of Christians and we did a 10 week series of tackling each question.

I just so happened to take notes on every single question for your viewing pleasure: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67022928&f=125&o=0#p449254948

When it comes to the Chariots you claimed this:



I then debunked that theory based on where those shipwrecks lie, then you never responded. You still continue to dodge to this very day.


What is there to answer? I already explained how each religion has different things how people should act, what to believe etc. You gave me two similar quotes from Quran and bible and asked me my personal opinion on which one I think god would want.
Extremely loaded question
1. I dont have a reason to believe in this god so I wouldn't even think about what this imaginary character wants or doesn't want.
2. Even If I pretended like he existed I would have no idea what he wanted, you are asking me to be a mind reader. Thats not upto me to decide.

I can only tell you my personal opinion, my own bias and limited experience. We are trying to figuire out if god is real and then find out god's truth not addone or CPK001 truth. So why are you asking me my opinions, I am not god. Completely pointless question that serves no purpose in figuring out which religion/god is real or fake.

Secondly you conveniently forgot to quote Quran 4:19 about treating wives with fairness and kindness etc and also forgot to mention bible commands wives to submit to their husbands Ephesians 5:22–23 and to kill them if they sleep around.
If you going to cherrypick family values from other religions be sure to compare apples with apples.

I am getting christian grifting fatigue already. Anything but providing actual proof or engaging with the questions honestly and being open minded. Pure cult like behaviour.
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a person has to be monumentality ignorant of scripture (willingly ignorant , right?) if they actually believe hitler represented Christ. and then post a meme of hitler the liar saying something like its supposed to have meaning is delusion. the irrationality of the enemies of God is proof of God.
the catholic institution failed when it didnt stand against hitler. to their eternal shame
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1. Charles Darwin and the theory of 'evolution- gets a pass because he didnt call it fact
2.haeckels embryo drawings- 1874- early detected fraud- mass reprinted in textbooks as "proof" for 'evolution. 'atheists "the super logic minds" never did chit to challenge this. when do 'atheists actually become "scientific" as opposed to just "agenda" based liars
3rd piltdown man 1912- 'atheists hold themselves on high claiming to be the greatest critical thinkers that ever graced the world- longest running fraud in the history of modern science. the real mystery is how these clowns ever became the face of modern science?
4th nebraska man 1922- a master work of 'atheist imagination figuring out stuff........
5th whale evolution. incomplete fossils are the best kind of fossils. in fact the worse condition a fossil is in the better it proves 'evolution for some reason? as we will see more of this 'atheist magic in later posts
6th junk DNA should of been the end of atheism. but imaginations and delusions are not defeated by things like facts
7. Harlen Bretz- dont bring science we dont like.
8.Australopithecus afarensis aka lucy "missing link" APE fossil with no hands, feet or face. gets reconstructed with human hands, human feet and face of choice. then its called "proof" of evolution.

that the 'atheist community never called any of this abuse of science out is just more proof what a failure the whole of 'atheism is..........

'atheism and their claims of "critical thinking" is just a trash can full of chit


A person would have to be monumentaly ignorant to say Nazis were atheists.
Whether you think that Nazis weren't real Christians is besides the point. They thought they were. Literally showed you pictures of them being religious. With direct quote from Hitler himself.

Not only did you pin atheism as a primary cause of those millions of deaths you also used inflated population numbers. It would be equivalent of comparing a dollar value from 1945 to dollar value in 2025. The population percentage is what you should be comparing. Another dishonest manipulation of statistics in order to deceive.

Why don't you count billions of people who died under religion? Or does your Christian propaganda instructios doesn’t allow?



Facts don't care about your feelings.








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A person would have to be monumentaly ignorant to say Nazis were atheists.
Whether you think that Nazis weren't real Christians is besides the point. They thought they were. Literally showed you pictures of them being religious. With direct quote from Hitler himself.

Not only did you pin atheism as a primary cause of those millions of deaths you also used inflated population numbers. It would be equivalent of comparing a dollar value from 1945 to dollar value in 2025. The population percentage is what you should be comparing. Another dishonest manipulation of statistics in order to deceive.

Why don't you count billions of people who died under religion? Or does your Christian propaganda instructios doesn’t allow?



Facts don't care about your feelings.

https://imgur.com/FEhuahi.jpeg

https://imgur.com/jetm10C.jpeg

https://imgur.com/p8y7wii.jpeg


lol they thought they were.

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From December 1940, Berlin ordered the transfer of clerical prisoners held at other camps, and Dachau became the centre for imprisonment of clergymen. Of a total of 2,720 clerics recorded as imprisoned at Dachau some 2,579 (or 94.88%) were Roman Catholics.


they were christians thats why they put "christians" in prison '''''obviously

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