Insight Eth Archon Staff 15ed

Obsession Ethereal 15ed with 125FCR and phoenix, for best results.

here is the math: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HXDhEsm_yo&list=PLuV7RoiZWk3BqdJ7o6qbMc3JdftfVWmsx

Higher dmg then 50k has its diminishing returns, so you should strive for 125FCR, and more survivability/utility. Doing 50k or 60k is almost indifferent, once you reach a certain trashhold you want to optimize to not dying and to farm quicker. Obsession + phoenix setup allows you to use godly gloves like steelrends or Loh for so much more dmg. Also allows you to have a ton of %mana leech and life leech to make farming p8 even smoother.

I have tryed every single setup:
Ebotd Thundermaul + Al durs mephistos 125fcr setup
Insight + al drus, Ariocs, etc
those + phoenix

nothing comes close to Obsession. turns out having 65FCR on a weapon in 1 hand is super broken.

This post was edited by Rilu on Mar 27 2026 07:12am

Do you want to slow monsters down running into your es spam? Cuz that's what doom gets you

If you've ever played a tz map with extra fast, you should know how big of a buff that is for your clear speed

This post was edited by daanno2 on Mar 27 2026 07:10am

Problem with phoenix is that it’s not very good in p8 full shard games if you’re trying to utilize a horker to max efficiency. Can’t hork unique corpses if phoenix is turning them into resources for you.

I know from personal experience that phoenix can provide the best solo QoL, but optimizing around it is difficult due to the above.

This post was edited by KronicDW on Mar 27 2026 07:21am

That is not true at all, all you got to do is to swap weapon when you are about to kill a Herold. I do it all the time. horking the herald is the entire point of horking p8 terrorized.

That’s not true at all!!!’ (proceeds to explain how it is in fact an issue and you have to carry an additional offhand to circumvent it, or switch to your cta which is still annoying)

So. It is an issue. Got it.

This post was edited by KronicDW on Mar 27 2026 07:30am

Whatever, its not an issue for a skilled player to press 1 button before a mob dies.
Anyway. Phoenix is the best offhand available to echoing strike warlock. once you can reach 125FCR with it equiped.

Yes I’m sure you’re highly skilled because you can press W or swap gear. The point is that it’s tedious and unnecessary when you’re already overkilling without phoenix.

I never said that it wasn’t the technical best option. Just making people aware of some potential downsides which you yourself admit to being present.

sounds lazy to me.

I saw a video where doom and arioc’s needle does the most damage. However all weapons have their good sides. I couldn’t afford more than insight but it is actually really good. I decided to roll a really high one. I would not change it for either fortitude or botd. Maybe eth tm phoenix.

It is just really nice to always have mana.

Right now my gear is
Circlet 2/20/some stats
Enigma
Arach
Trang
Soj
Bk
Maras
Insight eth cv
Spirit
Horozan boots

Skills
1 levitation
20 blood oat
20 echong strike
20 warped blade
20 mirrored blade
1 to hex
1 to sigi
1 in every demon skill
Rest in demonic mastery

I have a hepasto with curse and fana

I have a merc with pride and might

I do 75k damage without torch.
I never die. I am not even close.
This is because og blood oat.
Bk gives me life leech so I dont have to use potions for life either.


I also have a eth doom CA and arioc’s needle in stash but I never use them. I also have a fortitude but..