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Have gotten some reasonable responses from officials and leadership on this topic in my relevant jurisdictions. More than the typical pre-prepared template intern responses. There is a serious lack in depth of understanding for these sites and their impacts. Also not many with proper accredited engineering credentials and industry experience available in local backwater towns to challenge big tech.


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Have gotten some reasonable responses from officials and leadership on this topic in my relevant jurisdictions. More than the typical pre-prepared template intern responses. There is a serious lack in depth of understanding for these sites and their impacts. Also not many with proper accredited engineering credentials and industry experience available in local backwater towns to challenge big tech.


Big tech already getting ahead of people with their fanboys who are heavily invested in stocks. i say Caleb Hammer (the guy who does clickbait videos lambasting people in debt crisis) about data centers. like dude stay in your lane, i know you prob have massive holdings, but stay in your lane.

"they use too much water", is followed up by "we figured that out, we have a closed loop system now". which is funny, because the other bigger criticism is energy use. how do people think they're making a closed loop system work? massive water purification and recirculation, making the energy draw even worse. then they'll shift towards energy independence, likely by using gains to buy out massive tracts for inefficient energy not available to the grid.

data centers remain a necessity for ai driven business with zero upside to the actual population outside of goy slop entertainment videos and chat gpt answers to stuff google already could have told you.
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A human brain is 1.000.000 times more energy effective in mathematical operations then a super computer


power required for billion-billion (1 followed by 18 zeros) mathematical operations per second==>modern supercomputers 20 to 40 megawatts
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The human brain is an amazingly energy-efficient device. In computing terms, it can perform the equivalent of an exaflop — a billion-billion (1 followed by 18 zeros) mathematical operations per second — with just 20 watts of power.



This is gone happen, when the kapitals still rule in 2035:
You can join the meta-verse 3D paradise for free.
But when you put on that 3D helmet, we gone use some of your brains mathematical operations power
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Big tech already getting ahead of people with their fanboys who are heavily invested in stocks. i say Caleb Hammer (the guy who does clickbait videos lambasting people in debt crisis) about data centers. like dude stay in your lane, i know you prob have massive holdings, but stay in your lane.

"they use too much water", is followed up by "we figured that out, we have a closed loop system now". which is funny, because the other bigger criticism is energy use. how do people think they're making a closed loop system work? massive water purification and recirculation, making the energy draw even worse. then they'll shift towards energy independence, likely by using gains to buy out massive tracts for inefficient energy not available to the grid.

data centers remain a necessity for ai driven business with zero upside to the actual population outside of goy slop entertainment videos and chat gpt answers to stuff google already could have told you.


The scale of the expansion is incredible, pretty sure we are more than doubling the datacenter sites in USA if you account for under construction and in proposal/permitting phase.

Given the trend in technology, the sites will be outdated in a 5-10 year arch. Likely, the technology will improve in regards to physical footprint (think vacuum tube mainframe taking up a warehouse before the transistor downsized it into a box).

Can't predict the future, but feels very much like the old saying. "Pioneers get the arrows, settlers get the land". US running full speed in a race people don't care about.

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Update for the 20 that care XD


Verified Minnesota DFL does not intend to add environmental bonding or decommissioning bonding at the state level for these types of projects. Rather they defer to local government which as noted, is problematic. The only positive I was seeing in the policy proposals was transparency measures.

This means future population will have to deal with those inevitabilities from their tax base and time on docket. What a waste
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