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Mar 22 2026 02:42am
>man makes argument
>people willfully misrepresent argument
>people repeat the above, except now out of context
okay

It is literally the point he made: “A morally superior civilization may still fall to a ruthless enemy if it does not have the power to defend itself.”
is that not hard to understand

The Moriori tribe of the Chatham Islands were a strictly moral culture that adopted a code of absolute pacifism. The Maori invaded and killed, tortured, raped and ate them in no particular order, a cannibalistic genocide that wiped out 95% of their population. Because the Moriori not only did not have the military power to fight back, but conscientiously chose to follow the law of Nunuku and would rather be killed than kill. As Netanyahu explained in terms only a moron could misinterpret, Christian martyrdom does not stop a genocide against your people. No amount of turning the other cheek prevents your people from being wiped out by someone trying to kill you all.


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genetic entropy/ genetic load is the same thing as mutations
two 2 schools of thought
creation- genetic entropy/ genetic load/mutations is the breaking down and loss of genetic information
'atheism darwin- genetic entropy/ genetic load/mutations is some how some kind of building up process
one is found in the hard science while the other is found in some kind of combination of deep time and imagination

skin color is no mystery. the same genetics determine it. the only difference is the amount of melanin vary. no grand difference in the genetics just the expression of the genetics.


I am aware, as I've repeatedly outlined, that your theory has nothing to do with science and everything to do with justifying creationism.

There is a genetic difference between you and every other human. Its not just in how those genes express. You get the genetic material from your parents, i get mine from my parents. If every human was genetically identical there would be very little variation, and we would see this degradation in the fossil records of all species. We would also see "more human" humans appearing in the fossil record as we go further back, but the opposite is true. The further back you go the less "human" the records become until were looking at great ape ancestors who are very much not "more human" than anyone alive today.

We simply see organisms adapting to their surroundings through mutation and the mutations that allow for survival live long enough to be passed down. There is no magic, no design, no man with a beard sitting in the clouds needed for this process to occur.

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Mar 22 2026 07:01am
I am aware, as I've repeatedly outlined, that your theory has nothing to do with science and everything to do with justifying creationism.

There is a genetic difference between you and every other human. Its not just in how those genes express. You get the genetic material from your parents, i get mine from my parents. If every human was genetically identical there would be very little variation, and we would see this degradation in the fossil records of all species. We would also see "more human" humans appearing in the fossil record as we go further back, but the opposite is true. The further back you go the less "human" the records become until were looking at great ape ancestors who are very much not "more human" than anyone alive today.

We simply see organisms adapting to their surroundings through mutation and the mutations that allow for survival live long enough to be passed down. There is no magic, no design, no man with a beard sitting in the clouds needed for this process to occur.


i never said the genetic code was identical and neither did the article
o? i see why your rejecting the article. so i will just find another one
Misunderstanding of race as biology has deep negative biological and social consequences
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11291859/
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The belief of race as a biological concept with human populations having a distinct biological basis is unconsciously embedded in many individuals’ thinking (Lee, et al., 2021). These individuals think population differences in health and intelligence are the result of immutable, biologically based differences between ‘racial’ groups, despite overwhelming evidence that racial groups are not genetically discrete, reliably measured or scientifically meaningful (Smedley & Smedley, 2005). Because racial groups are not genetically discrete, when the term ‘race’ is discussed, we are referring to the self‐identified races (socio‐cultural constructs)—and not race as a biological entity.

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Accordingly, studies document that genetic differences are far higher within than between racial groups (Lewontin, 1972). Thus ‘race’ is not a biological reality but a myth (Smedley & Smedley, 2005). It is not possible to categorize an entire racial group as being genetically or physiologically distinct from one another because of the vast genetic heterogeneity of our populations.


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Mar 22 2026 07:02am
Israel is subordinate just like France and Germany are subordinate. If Russia or anyone else attacked Poland in the exact same fashion that Palestine attacked Israel the American response would be FAR greater and for good reason. Our interests are tied more strongly to Europe than to Israel. .


The first sentence was half correct. Europe are subordinates, not partners. In this new trade paradigm. At this time our interests are actually more in lined with Russia than Europe, and the ally maps will reflect this soon enough. Israel is not a subordinate, they don’t do what we ask lol. It is the opposite, and has been regardless of who the executive has been.

Your characterization of the Palestinian state is incomplete and devoid of empathy, you somehow ignore the genocidal nature of the Israeli populace and state. I could link 20 videos of Israeli civilians on social media and news casters saying death to all of Gaza in effortless time. Maybe you would condemn shooting children in their balls, but the Israeli population does not. They just acquitted a few guys who gang raped a prisoner on camera with a knife. If you don’t have proper understanding on Gaza then there is really no point to have conversations about Iran because what is happening in Gaza is right in front of your face, not to mention continued illegal settlement expansion in Hamas free West Bank.

If you think Israel has been a partner for peace and a 2 state solution in our adult lifetimes, I don’t even have words for this kind of delusion. Netanyahu and co. Have been pursuing a greater Israel for a LONG time. Starts with instability in neighboring areas and then swallowing up the lands in the name of safety expansion. This is not conspiracy, their intentions are pubic

America leading prosperity of the world by invading Iraq? By overthrowing the prior Iranian regime, which has lead to this clusterfuck of Iran to begin with? By setting off anarchy in Afghanistan, Syria et al? Yeah, tell that to Europe. All of this instability that is created has repercussions that are not felt immediately. Refugee crisis after refugee crisis on uneducated populations have consequences for the world. But, not the US because we do have an ocean in between. Europe has been getting unequivocally fucked by American actions for awhile and they continue to take it. Their inflation reads are outpacing ours. Their GDP reads are declining quicker than ours. Something will give. The biggest unknown is how long will they take it and what can/will they do eventually do about it. They have some options but it’s energy exporters vs energy importers

You can have last word

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i never said the genetic code was identical and neither did the article
o? i see why your rejecting the article. so i will just find another one
Misunderstanding of race as biology has deep negative biological and social consequences
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11291859/


Race is a real thing. You are conflating the racialization of humans and the racialization of finches. These are two separate concepts, but your understanding of both doesnt seem to line up with what I've seen. In darwinian sense, im not disputing a chinese person and a turkish person are both members of the human race. If youre using race in that sense you would be looking at another member of the homo family like neanderthals. That kind of racial competition doesnt exist among humans because we already beat out our competitors.

That doesnt mean a Turkish and Chinese person inherited the same genetic material from their parents. You dont need Darwin to understand why this is the case.

Also, to be clear, your view is the one which inherently establishes a genetic purity by which to judge other races. You are saying everything was created in a pure state and degraded over time. This literally contradicts the load idea you referred to earlier, because that is measuring how well a mutation is suited to its environment with regard to reproductive rates. If there isnt a sufficient load to cause the existing race to die out, then there is no real change amongst generations.

If lots of seeds bird no need eat worm. If seeds go away only birds who try eat worm survive. Now new race of bird who eat worm, but maybe on another island seed bird still has enough seed. The genetic load cause mutation to become adopted. Now sea levels fall, both bird reunite, no conflict cuz bird eat worm or seed but not both. Two different birds now. But they can mate. Now third bird eat both seed and worm, can outcompete for resources and make more baby faster. Now you have racial competition and natural selection.

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because we already beat out our competitors


don't be so sure about that. Both homo-erectus and neanderthal are among us. Some in extremely high concentrations depending on the populace.
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don't be so sure about that. Both homo-erectus and neanderthal are among us. Some in extremely high concentrations depending on the populace.


Yeah one of them wrote this :bonk: :rofl:
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interbreeding_between_archaic_and_modern_humans

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https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aax5097

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While introgression from Neanderthals and Denisovans has been documented in modern humans outside Africa, the contribution of archaic hominins to the genetic variation of present-day Africans remains poorly understood. We provide complementary lines of evidence for archaic introgression into four West African populations. Our analyses of site frequency spectra indicate that these populations derive 2 to 19% of their genetic ancestry from an archaic population that diverged before the split of Neanderthals and modern humans. Using a method that can identify segments of archaic ancestry without the need for reference archaic genomes, we built genome-wide maps of archaic ancestry in the Yoruba and the Mende populations. Analyses of these maps reveal segments of archaic ancestry at high frequency in these populations that represent potential targets of adaptive introgression. Our results reveal the substantial contribution of archaic ancestry in shaping the gene pool of present-day West African populations.


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Neanderthal DNA is found at the highest concentrations in Europeans and Ashkenazi Jews. Generally between 1-4%, but outliers without a doubt exist. Especially when communities that possess these genes reproduce with their own tribe or inbreed, like some royals are known to do.
They are easy to spot, once you know what to look for. Neanderthal was known for raping and cannibalizing Cro-Magnon as well. The original Epstein sub-species you could say.



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Lord Jacob Rothschild's skull-shape sure looks familiar.



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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interbreeding_between_archaic_and_modern_humans

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https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aax5097



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Neanderthal DNA is found at the highest concentrations in Europeans and Ashkenazi Jews. Generally between 1-4%, but outliers without a doubt exist. Especially when communities that possess these genes reproduce with their own tribe or inbreed, like some royals are known to do.
They are easy to spot, once you know what to look for. Neanderthal was known for raping and cannibalizing Cro-Magnon as well. The original Epstein sub-species you could say.

https://i.imgur.com/iOfhJtd.png

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Lord Jacob Rothschild's skull-shape sure looks familiar.

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/DHB9FK/jacob-rothschild-l-and-sir-evelyn-de-rothschild-r-positive-view-foundation-DHB9FK.jpg


I see a fairly vertical brow there. Are you just looking at the skull protruding from the back? Cause that's what everyone's does. Go look in the mirror at your own. The skull connects to the top of your neck, which is a thinner part of the body.

You've got some extremely whacky beliefs about the jews that I dont think I even want to get into disproving, but i will just say that I find it interesting you identify a genetic marker associated with east Asians and Europeans then called it the epstein gene. :zzz:
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The cone shaped protruding crown, the recessed chin, the nose being higher up, looking like it is more attached to the top part of the skull rather than the face. You can even just compare his skull with the person next to him. Completely different shape and structure.

East Asians have Denisovan DNA. Somewhat related to Neanderthal but unique.

The Epstein gene comment was mostly a joke, but as with all jokes, there is a shred of truth to it.

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