If we start going down this road, no one beats America. Over 4.5 million civilians killed in Vietnam and Korea per their own records. Almost half a million civilians in response to 9/11, most of which werent even living in countries that were involved in the attacks. If we're looking at total deaths to civilians as a metric, the US is leading since they dropped the atom bomb and havent looked back.

Maybe next generation of Americans will realize that martyring a bunch of religious extremists isn't the best way to make them not see you as Satan.

Imagine Iran killed your president, bombed an elementary school full of young american girls then blamed it on you. You guys went full psycho after 9/11 and that was less than 10% of the civilians you killed in response to the attack. Just no self awareness, cant even blame you since its by the design of your ruling class but damn wake up dawg

Yeah. His estimates, and those made by American leaders in the past several decades, have been fairly accurate as far as I've seen.

What you're not understanding is that these estimates are not predictions of when Iran will have nuclear weapons. These estimates are on nuclear latency.

Every country that does not possess nuclear weapons has a measurable nuclear latency. I don't know what it is for Canada but assuming it's 3 years, that means Canada is 3 years from nuclear weapons. This does not imply that Canada will have nuclear weapons in three years. It means they could if they decided to, and if no one intervened.

Iran's nuclear latency has varied wildly over the past few decades for various reasons. Obama's intent with JCPOA was to bring Iran's nuclear latency back up to one year and keep it there. This worked for 5 years.

From 2016 to 2021 Iran was one year from nuclear weapons and this was considered a win. I mean it was much better than nothing, but it still isn't a great result. In 2021 they started enriching heavily and their nuclear latency shrunk until it was a matter of weeks, but they were staying at that point. They were consistently weeks away from nuclear weapons for a few years.

Hopefully you can understand the concept now.

This post was edited by Shadowoffury on Mar 21 2026 08:30pm

I read it, it's a bunch of conjecture that has no bearing on what we're talking about. But I will explain it to you so you stop going down this fruitless road.

Every human does not have every single gene dormant inside them. There are these things called genetic mutations that your article doesn't mention even once that are the entire basis of the process youre attempting to shoehorn into your christoid theory. You start with only the genetic material of your parents. The article is saying there isnt a definitive heirarchy or single evolutionary trajectory by which to make a case for a belief in a "more advanced" race. If you think that the author believes skin color is not a genetically inheritable trait I don't know what to tell you.

There is a reason why we can trace your ancestry, and why its not the same as every other human on the planet. The implications of your interpretation wouldn't be something contained within an anti-racism article, it would be a paradigm-shattering discovery

Accurate based on what?

You cannot be one year away from imminent danger for 33 years. Have you ever heard of crying wolf?

This post was edited by belthasar on Mar 21 2026 08:38pm

I wasn’t talking about Syria. They have their own sovereignty. I was referring to direct proxies, not other nations.

Unless you want to also count our involvement in Iraq where we acted as Israel proxy. If you were being intellectually honest you would

That was half the question though. You make a habit of pivoting and dodging. As an American, why is it difficult to answer how many civilians has Israel killed over the last decade? you still cannot respond to this as well




This post was edited by Bazi on Mar 21 2026 08:40pm

Yes. The response to an attack on the world's greatest superpower is not proportional.

If you want to look at it that way, only 2400 people died in the attack on pearl harbor. The response led to the death of millions. It also led to a free Europe and a prosperous Japan.

Proportionality is part of the Geneva convention but go off king. Why should Iran's response be proportionate to you? If you are willing to nuke other innocents to avenge your own fallen why shouldn't they have the same right?

Jesus: if you dont turn the other cheek then the cycle of justified revenge will never end

American christians: this random group in the desert hurt my eye, now I will kill 4.5million innocents who had no involvement. Christ is king.

Oh ok, so it only counts if they give weapons to a guy who is not a dictator? I'm having trouble following your logic here.

What distinction are you trying to make between putting weapons in the hands of Nasrallah and Assad when in both cases the weapons were pointed mostly at innocents?

You didn't ask me how many civilians Israel has killed lol I'm sorry for not responding to a rhetorical question that wasn't even posed I guess.

As for the thing in your quote, I responded to that twice. I disagree with the foundation of your point. They are both very bad. You kill those guys. The fact that there's more than one terrible person doesn't mean you never act to stop the one who is currently in charge.

This post was edited by Shadowoffury on Mar 21 2026 08:51pm

I don’t mind the distinction, will see if you are being consistent

This post was edited by Bazi on Mar 21 2026 08:56pm