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Mar 9 2026 03:25pm
How do you guys play it

- Infinity/might merc or Insight/cure/prayer ?
- Ars tor baalos or Pheonix ?
- Flickering Flame or Hellwarden Will ?
- Mang song's or Obsession ?
- Defilers or Tainted ones ?

Things that I see as absolute BiS items : Magefist, Arach, Wraithstep.

Obviously there are many options there. But only 1 leads to the maximum damage build.
Let me know if I missed something obvious.
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Mar 9 2026 05:22pm
infinity/insight both work, coh/flayed/greyform all work armor, cure/flicker both work helm
baalos >
flame for 75% build, hellwarden for 125%, 2/20/2 circlet for best 125% build
mang song >
consume 1 tainted, summon 1 defiler, bind 1 demon
rare boots >

Sure you could trade off some survivability for extra damage at a few steps, but the difference between 11-12k damage -> 12-13k damage isn't anywhere as important as the difference between -20 -> 75% resists
and its pretty darn easy to manage resists on a 75 build, though a 125 build gets dicier because if you rely on a merc flickering flame to offset sunder, you lose the cure vs poison/curses and create this huge vulnerability where if your merc dies, you lose all your fire resists instantly

125 build is definitely faster and more optimized, but 75 build is just so easy to build and cheaper and can have all the QoL benefits without much hassle
infinity on merc and cursed+holy freeze demon gets all the best dps, but you'll miss meditation aura as you teleport around and again if your merc dies to say T5 heralds, you'll lose a huge chunk of dps- a conviction demon will never die

using wraithsteps means needing to pump extra strength, a bo spirit can be as low as 146 and you could just use splendor, though 146 doesn't take many points after enigma/torch/anni. But +1 skills isn't worth losing up to 145% combined resists/PLR

This post was edited by Goomshill on Mar 9 2026 05:23pm
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Mar 9 2026 10:47pm
infinity/insight both work, coh/flayed/greyform all work armor, cure/flicker both work helm
baalos >
flame for 75% build, hellwarden for 125%, 2/20/2 circlet for best 125% build
mang song >
consume 1 tainted, summon 1 defiler, bind 1 demon
rare boots >

Sure you could trade off some survivability for extra damage at a few steps, but the difference between 11-12k damage -> 12-13k damage isn't anywhere as important as the difference between -20 -> 75% resists
and its pretty darn easy to manage resists on a 75 build, though a 125 build gets dicier because if you rely on a merc flickering flame to offset sunder, you lose the cure vs poison/curses and create this huge vulnerability where if your merc dies, you lose all your fire resists instantly

125 build is definitely faster and more optimized, but 75 build is just so easy to build and cheaper and can have all the QoL benefits without much hassle
infinity on merc and cursed+holy freeze demon gets all the best dps, but you'll miss meditation aura as you teleport around and again if your merc dies to say T5 heralds, you'll lose a huge chunk of dps- a conviction demon will never die

using wraithsteps means needing to pump extra strength, a bo spirit can be as low as 146 and you could just use splendor, though 146 doesn't take many points after enigma/torch/anni. But +1 skills isn't worth losing up to 145% combined resists/PLR


Hey bro thanks for the input. Are you playing the build right now ?
I haven't tried it yet. Playing solo I have found a Mang song's and baalos but decided to go echoing build.

From what I see after a second thought :

Infinity merc with cure >
Urdar with holy freeze/cursed >
Hellwarden > Flame

For 75FC I was thinking Mang song-Hellwarden-Arach-Mages, that allows Mara + 2 Sojs
For 125FC I was thinking same build with Spirit as Addition, to keep the +2 skills from jewelry.
I dont see how baalos > spirit for 125 fc when you lose +2 skills from rings ?
I guess 75 or 125 really depends on how many casts you need to clear packs

Baalos shield looks best for dps but since the char doesnt leech life, I was also considering Phoenix for life sustain.

I dont see consume as useful ? you lose 1 blood boil cast which seems huge going from 3 to 2.
Sure the enemy -res is cool, but with Infinity, Sunder charm and the new unique jewel you should already have enough -res
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Mar 13 2026 03:39pm
Consume is just to nice not to have tbh, and the 2 v 3 explosions didn't really off set the massive hp and frw you get tbh, oh and I like the baalos for the skills, I played till 90 as bb, tried some echoing strike but thats too rippy in comparison imo, I felt like I was playing on nm when doing blood boil, never using a rejuv.. on echoing I have multiple heart attacks per session ^^
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Consume is just to nice not to have tbh, and the 2 v 3 explosions didn't really off set the massive hp and frw you get tbh, oh and I like the baalos for the skills, I played till 90 as bb, tried some echoing strike but thats too rippy in comparison imo, I felt like I was playing on nm when doing blood boil, never using a rejuv.. on echoing I have multiple heart attacks per session ^^


Yeah well that depends ur gear I guess

I'm close to 96 on hc and still echoing build. Got a good 10+ close calls but now that I have cta and 3.6K life I never drink any potion anymore (unless a bad tele ofc)
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Mar 15 2026 07:33am
Why don't you guys try a hybrid cleave lock so you have two sources of leech both from cleave and eldrich blast. Such a safe build. You have lots of skill points to put into blood oath for extra tank too.
As an added bonus super fun to play. Only reason im still playing this season to be honest.
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Mar 17 2026 05:10pm
Why don't you guys try a hybrid cleave lock so you have two sources of leech both from cleave and eldrich blast. Such a safe build. You have lots of skill points to put into blood oath for extra tank too.
As an added bonus super fun to play. Only reason im still playing this season to be honest.


What's the build for this? How do you max out ias and still have good cast frames?
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Mar 17 2026 07:59pm
What's the build for this? How do you max out ias and still have good cast frames?


Im maxing eldrich blast, blade warp, hex purge, cleave, rest in blood oath for more surviveability. Current gear:ebotd wp, ars dul meph 28fcr, 19fcr amulet, trang gloves, arach, sling, 10fcr ring, enigma, horazon boots and hellwardens. The hardest to get item would be a 2lock 20fcr 2soc visionary helm. I have yet to test if 15ias on helm is enough to hit that last ias breakpoint or if it needs at least 20ias and fanatism from hephasto.

But current build has 3-15k cleave damage, 9-10k eldritch blast and 1.5k-1.8k hex purge 80ias and 126 fcr. I have 4 eldritch gcs, no protector jewel and no awakened sunder so there is room for improvement.
it's played like a fireball sorc, cleave on left, teleport on right and just tele and hold shift left click. No need for switching buttons and targeting.

My rationale for maxing out eldrich blast synergies is to take advantage of all the -mr gear that is available to this build(hellwardens, gheeds wager, ars dul meph, sling etc) while losing very little cleave damage. I also consume defiler for extra magic damage and magic reduction. I'm losing maybe 2-3k max damage by not maxing mirrored blades and not consuming goatman, but gaining lots of magic penetration and almost tripling my eldritch blast damage.

Send me a message when you're online and i can show you game play.

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Im maxing eldrich blast, blade warp, hex purge, cleave, rest in blood oath for more surviveability. Current gear:ebotd wp, ars dul meph 28fcr, 19fcr amulet, trang gloves, arach, sling, 10fcr ring, enigma, horazon boots and hellwardens. The hardest to get item would be a 2lock 20fcr 2soc visionary helm. I have yet to test if 15ias on helm is enough to hit that last ias breakpoint or if it needs at least 20ias and fanatism from hephasto.

But current build has 3-15k cleave damage, 9-10k eldritch blast and 1.5k-1.8k hex purge 80ias and 126 fcr. I have 4 eldritch gcs, no protector jewel and no awakened sunder so there is room for improvement.
it's played like a fireball sorc, cleave on left, teleport on right and just tele and hold shift left click. No need for switching buttons and targeting.

My rationale for maxing out eldrich blast synergies is to take advantage of all the -mr gear that is available to this build(hellwardens, gheeds wager, ars dul meph, sling etc) while losing very little cleave damage. I also consume defiler for extra magic damage and magic reduction. I'm losing maybe 2-3k max damage by not maxing mirrored blades and not consuming goatman, but gaining lots of magic penetration and almost tripling my eldritch blast damage.

Send me a message when you're online and i can show you game play.


Thanks for the detailed message, something to think about! Are you on HC by any chance? I'll pm you and we can organize something, would love to check it out. I quite like echo strikes, great build, good for everything, easy to hit breakpoints, relatively cheap. I'm trying out BB now, it's not bad, but kinda ass compared to echo strikes. Just working my way through the different specs haha
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Mar 18 2026 06:30am
Thanks for the detailed message, something to think about! Are you on HC by any chance? I'll pm you and we can organize something, would love to check it out. I quite like echo strikes, great build, good for everything, easy to hit breakpoints, relatively cheap. I'm trying out BB now, it's not bad, but kinda ass compared to echo strikes. Just working my way through the different specs haha


I don't play hardcore. Far too careless for it lol. There are limitations to the build unfortunately. I havent tried a inv full of max/ar scs so i use merc with blessed aim. Even with blessed aim and fana he still tops out at 80-90% chance to hit.
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