TL;DR No more ghost-auctions: If you meet the minimum bid within time-frame then your bid will be honored; seller must sell.

DETAILS:

This is only for TIMED AUCTIONS with minimum/start/reserve prices, such as "10 minute auction, all listed items, 200 start".

Problem: Seller retracts auction after buyer meets minimum bid within auction time-frame.

Solution: New rule disallowing sellers from retracting timed auctions with minimum bids. If a seller does not intend to sell the items, they should not post the auction. The minimum/start/reserve price is the choice of the seller. Sellers must honor their own auctions.

Results:
-Improve the user experience for buyers and reduce frustrations. It's imperative to the credibility of an auction house to know that your bid will be honored.
-Prevent "ghost-auctions" where a seller ignores his thread/pm because he doesn't want to honor his auction.
-Reduce overall thread counts from a seller creating multiple auctions for the same items (they should make only one auction because that auction must be honored).

This change is not anticipated to have a difficult learning curve for users or moderators, because it's a common-sense change:

-Items for auction are for auction
-A minimum is a minimum
-A timer is a timer
-A bid is a bid

The change would increase trust and credibility across d2jsp, and the user experience would improve.

I'd love to hear constructive feedback from those with an opposing view. What drawbacks do you see?

Voted no simply for the fact that since it is your item, you have the choice to sell it or not. This would force someone to sell an item that they may have a change of heart over.

This is why I don’t even deal with auctions, usually when you win one someone will bid 5-10 fg over you and the OP will ruin their reputation and sell to them for chump change.

As the guy above me said, people are allowed to change their minds and mods can’t really make someone give up their items. They also can’t be labeled as scammers since a scam didn’t occur..

It sucks but it’s part of jsp, better to just deal with bins

Thanks for your vote and feedback.

I understand that sentiment for cases of non-timed auctions, or in the case a seller is "accepting offers" or gleaning the market. He may not accept offers that he feels are too low.

But in the case of a time-auction there is an important distinction:

The seller himself makes the choice as to what the minimum amount required for him to make the trade. It's entirely up to him. If he sets a price at 500 and only 1 bid is placed, then the item(s) sell for 500. That was his comfortable low-asking price. Otherwise there is no point in having a minimum/start/reserve auction.

This post was edited by M4rs on Mar 17 2026 04:23pm

Yes, that's up to you to run only BIN auctions. But some people run timed-auctions. It's up to the seller to set his incremental bid rate, if he wants, such as:

Time: 15 minutes from OP
Start: 300
Incremental bids: 50

You see, these are the rules set by the seller. But what point is there if only the buyer must abide by the rules, while the seller can eject at will, with no drawbacks for himself, leaving confusion and distrust for all the bidders?

Imagine such a scenario at Sotheby's or Christie's auction houses. If an item if so for sale it's for sale. Otherwise there is no credibility in the auction house.

It's bad manners 100%, but should not be illegalized. Think of the place where this is coming, which is you got burnt on a good deal. Seller had different expectations that were not met, emotions all around, I don't think it's a good source to judge what should be allowed and what should not. Sorry that you did not get to buy 100 jahs for 10fg, but the seller is always allowed to have the final say in what they sell to whom for what (as bad mannered as it is).

I don't see how this would affect in one direction or another jsp credibility, I don't see it as a recurrent enough of a problem where it would affect people to go as far as say "Jsp is ok, but man have you seen those auctions unhonored?"

There are lots of problems to this, for example, I have a post from 5 days ago with an auction that no one started and I go afk for a week. Am I liable in the meantime for someone to post start and get my account locked? This is a reductio ad absurdum argument, but between this and what we have now lie all the other cases where enforcing any sort of rule in regards to my items that I am selling comes across as not coming from a rational place, but rather from an emotional place

Policing good manners is not something we should aim at, but each to their own.

Posts like that are part of the problem. If a rule was in place then posts like that wouldn't exist and the entire forum would be cleaned up a bit. Wouldn't it uplift the community to a more mature state?



I agree with you that the majority of people are not saying that. And I'm not saying that d2jsp has bad credibility, only that a new rule would further elevate its credibility.



If the seller sets an indefinite time limit (or doesn't mention time at all), then there is no complaint a buyer can have. However, if a seller explicitly states a time limit (which does benefit him with drawing more attention), that's his choice, and the buyers have a reasonable expectation that the time limit will be actuated.

Appreciate your perspective. Apologies if I missed anything.

This post was edited by M4rs on Mar 17 2026 04:49pm

Are you still crying about this?

Voted no, for reasons explained in your other closed thread

I can assure you that no tears have been shed. My argument remains firmly objective. If you have any rational rebuttals feel free to share.

Concerning the other post, it appears to have been closed due to the user that received the mod response, "This post is a violation of the site rules and appropriate action was taken." I won't call that user out, as my goal is for this discussion to remain objective and centered around whether or not a rule addition would be an overall benefit to d2jsp.