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Mar 17 2026 01:19pm
This afternoon I did some testing when Durance of Hate became TZ, and from what I could see, a Mauler with Holy Freeze aura attacked slower than a Mauler with Fanaticism, the difference was clearly visible to my eyes...

Can anyone else confirm this and that there isn't a cap in AS that forces us to stop using Fanaticism if we're a pure summoner?
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Mar 17 2026 01:33pm
Any intel whether binding a tz unique cursed mob vs a regular cursed tz mob makes a difference? They have differing hp values I’m guessing (unique dies slower as an enemy)
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This afternoon I did some testing when Durance of Hate became TZ, and from what I could see, a Mauler with Holy Freeze aura attacked slower than a Mauler with Fanaticism, the difference was clearly visible to my eyes...

Can anyone else confirm this and that there isn't a cap in AS that forces us to stop using Fanaticism if we're a pure summoner?


+% ias is definitely capped at +75%. My current ladder setup is 45 demonic mastery (+49%) and 48 engorge (+35%) so its capped out after every engorge

Any intel whether binding a tz unique cursed mob vs a regular cursed tz mob makes a difference? They have differing hp values I’m guessing (unique dies slower as an enemy)


Still needs to be tested and its not exactly an easy thing to test. I guess simplest way would be to test normal mode enemies with small HP ranges against fairly constant DPS poison like that act 5 catapult, but its really a pain to get it to fire the catapults.
Most monsters have about a 60-100% hp range so its really hard to tell if its getting double hp or not. Blunderbores in act 2 palace cellar might be a good case, they have 102-128 base HP and 0% all resists, their high regen disabled by poison. Normal mode areas tend to have 0-1 uniques so its really hard to find them reliable, but cellar is tiny and same map, only 75% chance of urdars and 0-1 elites and 20% chance to be champion so uh 10% chance to find an elite urdar per map, a few resets and you could find one, but probably 3-5+ games before you do and who knows it might have some annoying affix. And somehow need to deal damage to it without instantly killing it, guess normal attack
Again would need to test with a char with 0 blood oath for safest results

The poison from hell catapults dealt ~363 damage over 24 seconds in my testing. So if you bound the blunderbore in P4 game it would have 255-320 hp if its not counted as unique, 510-640 hp for unique. Thus dying to a catapult in either 1 hit or surviving with 30%+ hp and regenerating.
Note I haven't actually done this test, just explained the setup that would isolate for this question
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Mar 17 2026 03:44pm
Anecdotally I think it's noticeable with normal binds and only 1pt Blood Oath. In the case of Urdars, my P1 Act 5 didn't even make it through Uber Mephisto (who died in a few seconds) let alone the others. I had better luck with the unique when I was still trying to get them in there for the CB (before I abandoned all attempts of using anything but immortal Hephasto).

Id guess they don't get the extra HP, but you never know.
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Mar 17 2026 04:17pm
I had cursed Hell Lister who wouldn't proc amplify damage. I don't knlw whether it is a bug. Hephaisto is much mre aggressive and doesn't even need an aura to proc amplify damage. He teleports straight onto monsters.

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  • S Tier: Spear Rogue (TZ > Matron > Reg)
  • A Tier: Urdar > Minion of Destruction > Vile Mother
  • B Tier: Goatman > Hephasto > Smith > Axe Rogue > Hell Buzzard
  • C Tier: Council > Balrog / Overseer / Putrid Defiler / Tainted > Flayer
  • F Tier: Fallen/Fetish Shaman > Siren > Fetish / Archer Rogue > Demon Imp > Succubi
  • Platinum SSS Hidden Tier: Pain Worm / Vile Child upgraded to unique via monster shrine so it has cursed



Hi, just wondering is this still up to dated? And, anyone got a list for echo strike build?
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Mar 17 2026 07:18pm
I had cursed Hell Lister who wouldn't proc amplify damage. I don't knlw whether it is a bug. Hephaisto is much mre aggressive and doesn't even need an aura to proc amplify damage. He teleports straight onto monsters.


known bug
if the tz is naturally cursed any unique boss wont cast curse
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Mar 18 2026 02:34pm
Does anyone know if a bound demon goatman benefits from Death Marks 25% crushing blow?
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Mar 19 2026 03:48am
Does anyone know if a bound demon goatman benefits from Death Marks 25% crushing blow?


It shouldn't, because it specifies is a Summon Goatman sinergy, not for a Goatman you captured with Bind Demon.
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Hi, just wondering is this still up to dated? And, anyone got a list for echo strike build?


You want a tanky demon that casts amp reliably, tons of options, marginal difference between them, all personal preference.

I like venom lord, tainted type, stygian hag type (has its own summons), urdar is pretty good, heph, lister.
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