We'll get another 'jews rule the world' trope play as deflection. When the assertion has always been they (Israel) have way to much influence.

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Mar 17 2026 08:44am

Israel still stuck in the 'if we only kill enough of their leaders we win' scenario. Not sure this works under the decentralized org structure 2.0

one of the funny things that is at play is the really serious academic level "antisemites" have a really clear theory.

1. Israel has too much influence, and it's due to a group of small by number elite level Jews in Israel and other capital cities that leverage a lot of things to further the interests of Israel.
2. This same group is and has been brainwashing the masses of both Israeli population and worldwide Jews to weaponize claims of antisemitism to allow them to do what they want.

When you put these together, you're saying a similar thing to what US citizens say all the time, that an elite group of people are brainwashing the masses so they can further their own interests. That's what the anti-war movement was about, that's what the occupy wallstreet was about, that's the criticism of BLM and Trans initiatives. They are all distractions to allow them to fleece us and make our lives worse so they can get a 3rd yacht.

but when you try and break through the brainwashing you get met with "no you're just an antisemite", like wtf lol. It's Hitler's fault honestly, while there was a strong sense of victim first culture in Jewish populations even before the 1930's, but its been forever galvanized. Now in modern times when you tell victims they're a victim they play the victim to not be called victims.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Mar 17 2026 09:07am

To what degree of influence do you think AIPAC has over legislature though? I've heard it argued both ways and i'm not conviced it's non-negligible.

I brought this point up numerous times. Please look back into the legislative docket when boycott divest and sanction Israel was a thing. The tiny little nation of 10? million dominated our USA docket. Literally it was the most important thing our Representatives could talk about God forbid domestic constituents have issues that need addressing. It's Israel first when they want it to be.

To expand it wasn't just dominating the docket, we had Representatives working to undermine freedoms of speech as it relates to government contracts being awarded/retracted to American citizens

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Mar 17 2026 09:19am

Honestly don’t get the point of these type of posts from Trump. You’re not happy the vassals aren’t blindly following? That’s fine, but that’s a grievance to be aired privately not to be put on public display where it exposes the growing rift.

https://x.com/kobeissiletter/status/2033927436040126636?s=46

Thank God the only hold they somehow have is in South Korea and Taiwan. Japan have been quite robust to their influence.

influence is hard to quantify, what isn't is making a simple ratio, much like Red also eluded to.

"how much importance to American citizens does a subject have" over "How much time does the Legislature spend on that subject".

Things like healthcare have a terrible ratio, they're of dire importance to american citizens but the legislature hardly touches them. Whereas Israel has almost zero effect on the life of the average citizen, but gets an inordinate amount of time spent on it.

The same goes for how people in the House and Senate talk about an issue. We see HEATED disagreement about many issues, pro trans vs anti trans, pro tax cuts vs anti tax cuts, pro data centers vs anti, etc. But there is almost zero anti Israel in the legislature historically, its one of the most bipartisan issues in modern history. Only now is it even in question, it's always been a constant. That's because unlike other lobbies like energy or healthcare, AIPAC funds both sides of the aisle. They pay both sides for silence and billions of aid.

I am not offended at all, I didnt anything regarding the 20 billion they invest in universities

Qatar’s lobbying strategy is vastly different from AIPAC’s. While AIPAC operates as an American domestic group focusing on election campaign checks, Qatar operates as a foreign government. Because foreign nations cannot legally donate to U.S. political campaigns, they invest their money into registered lobbying firms, PR agencies, and high-level consultants to gain access to the executive branch and Congress.

did you just seriously use the term "gain access to the executive branch" in the subject of Qatar being worse than Israel? pfffffftttttttt.

Lmk when Qatar starts making US lawmakers put on tiny hats and kiss on of their walls for photo opps. or, idk, assassinates a president who demands they let in nuclear inspectors.