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Mar 16 2026 07:49pm
Lots of pointless bickering in this thread. Read this instead.
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Three weeks into the war with Iran, a number of observations as someone who spent years war-gaming this scenario.

1. The U.S. and Israel may have produced regime transition in the worst possible way.
Ali Khamenei was 86 and had survived multiple bouts of prostate cancer. His death in the coming years would likely have triggered a real internal reckoning in Iran, potentially opening the door to somewhat more pragmatic leadership, especially after the protests and crackdown last month. Instead, the regime made its most consequential decision under existential external threat giving the hardliners a clear upperhand. Now we appear to have a successor who is 30 years younger, deeply tied to the IRGC, and radicalized by the war itself – including the killing of family members. Disastrous.

2. About seven years ago at CNAS, I helped convene a group of security, energy, and economic experts to walk through scenarios for a U.S.--Iran war and the implications for global oil prices. What we’re seeing now was considered one of the least likely but worst outcomes. The modeling assumed the Strait of Hormuz could close for 4–10 weeks, with 1–3 years required to restore oil production once you factored in infrastructure damage. Prices could spike from around $65 to $175–$200 per barrel, before eventually settling in the $80–$100 range a year later in a new normal.

3. One surprising development: Iran is still moving oil through the Strait of Hormuz while disrupting everyone else. In most war games I participated in, we assumed Iran couldn’t close the Strait and still use it themselves. That would have made the move extremely self-defeating. But Iran appears capable of harassing global shipping while still pushing some of its own exports through. That changes the calculus.

4. The U.S. now finds itself in the naval and air equivalent of the dynamic we faced in Iraq and Afghanistan. It’s a recipe for a quagmire where we win every battle and lose the war. We have overwhelming military dominance and are exacting a tremendous cost. But Iran doesn’t need to win battles. They just need occasional successes. A small boat hitting a tanker. A drone slipping through defenses in the Gulf. A strike on a hotel or oil facility. Each incident creates insecurity and drives costs up while remind everyone that the regime is surviving and fighting.

5. The deeper problem is that U.S. objectives were set far too high. Once “regime change” becomes the implicit or explicit goal, the bar for American success becomes enormous. Iran’s bar is simple: survive and keep causing disruption.

6. The options for ending this war now are all bad. You can try to secure the entire Gulf and Middle East indefinitely – extremely expensive and maybe impossible. You can invade Iran and replace the regime, but nobody is seriously going to do that. Costs are astronomical. You can try to destabilize the regime by supporting separatist groups. It probably won’t work and if it does you’ll most likely spark a civil war producing years of bloody chaos the U.S. will get blamed for. None of these are good outcomes.

7. The other escalatory options being discussed are taking the nuclear material out of Esfahan or taking Kargh Island. Esfahan is not really workable. Huge risk. You’d have been on the ground for a LONG time to safely dig in and get the nuclear material out in the middle of the country giving Iran time to reinforce from all over and over run the American position.

8. Kharg Island can be appealing to Trump. He’d love to take Iran’s ability to export oil off the map and try to coerce them to end the war. It’s much easier because it’s not in the middle of IRan. But it’s still a potentially costly ground operation. And again. Again, the Iranian government only has to survive to win and they can probably do that even without Kargh.

9. The least bad option is the classic diplomatic off-ramp. The U.S. declares that Iran’s military capabilities have been significantly degraded, which is how the Pentagon always saw the purpose of the war. Iran declares victory for surviving and demonstrating it can still threaten regional actors. It would feel unsatisfying. But this is the inevitable outcome anyway. Better to stop now than after five or ten more years of escalating costs. Remember in Afghanistan we turned down a deal very early in the war with the Taliban that looked amazing 20 years later. Don’t need to repeat that kind of mistake.

10. The U.S. and Israel are not perfectly aligned here. Trump just needs a limited win and would see long-term instability as a negative whereas for Netanyahu a weak unstable Iran that bogs the U.S. down in the MIddle East is a fine outcome. If President Trump decided he wanted Israel to stop, he likely has the leverage to push it in that direction just as he pressured Netanyahu to take a deal last fall on Gaza.

11. When this is over, the Gulf states will have to rethink their entire security strategy. They are stuck in the absolute worst place. They didn’t start this war and didn’t want it and now they are taking with some of the worst consequences. Neither doubling down with the U.S. and Israel nor placating the Iranians seems overwhelmingly appealing.

12. One clear geopolitical winner so far: Russia. Oil prices are rising. Sanctions are coming off. Western attention and military resources are shifting away from Ukraine. From Moscow’s perspective, this war is a win win win.

13. At some point China may have a role to play here. It is the world’s largest oil importer, and much of that supply comes from the Middle East. Yes they are still getting oil from Iran. But they also buy from the rest of the Middle East, and a prolonged disruption in the Gulf hits Beijing hard. That gives China a real incentive to help push toward an end to the conflict.


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Mar 16 2026 09:05pm
Lots of pointless bickering in this thread. Read this instead.

https://x.com/ilangoldenberg/status/2033566389978423382?s=46


Lots of good points in there, thanks for posting! I have to disagree with the first one, though:



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Ali Khamenei was 86 and had survived multiple bouts of prostate cancer. His death in the coming years would likely have triggered a real internal reckoning in Iran, potentially opening the door to somewhat more pragmatic leadership, especially after the protests and crackdown last month. Instead, the regime made its most consequential decision under existential external threat giving the hardliners a clear upperhand.


I really doubt that the regime would have allowed a moderate reformer to succeed Khamenei after his death from natural causes. Imho, his son was clearly being groomed to become his successor either way. After reading about it, Mojtaba had been working on his religious credentials for the past 15 years - which other reason would he have had to do that other than trying to patch up the one glaring weak spot of his CV if he were to assume the role of Supreme Leader one day? (See also [1].) Likewise, he had been using his position as the gatekeeper to his father to build up strong relations with all the important power players in Iran and thus would always have gone into a peacetime leadership election with the broadest support network.


I would also push back against this notion that the lesson the mullah regime drew from the crackdown of the popular uprising two months ago was an "urgent need to tone it down". I think their conclusion was rather that the domestic opposition went all-in and they still defeated them; that their domestic enemies were the ones scared and beaten into submission for the time being.




Some background on Mojtaba positioning himself over the past 15+ years:
[1] https://www.iranintl.com/en/202603113271

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Mar 16 2026 09:42pm
Lots of good points in there, thanks for posting! I have to disagree with the first one, though:





I really doubt that the regime would have allowed a moderate reformer to succeed Khamenei after his death from natural causes. Imho, his son was clearly being groomed to become his successor either way. After reading about it, Mojtaba had been working on his religious credentials for the past 15 years - which other reason would he have had to do that other than trying to patch up the one glaring weak spot of his CV if he were to assume the role of Supreme Leader one day? (See also [1].) Likewise, he had been using his position as the gatekeeper to his father to build up strong relations with all the important power players in Iran and thus would always have gone into a peacetime leadership election with the broadest support network.


I would also push back against this notion that the lesson the mullah regime drew from the crackdown of the popular uprising two months ago was an "urgent need to tone it down". I think their conclusion was rather that the domestic opposition went all-in and they still defeated them; that their domestic enemies were the ones scared and beaten into submission for the time being.




Some background on Mojtaba positioning himself over the past 15+ years:
[1] https://www.iranintl.com/en/202603113271


Tbh tend to agree. I don’t think a better or more softer leader wouldve taken over, that’s in no way a certainty. I do think creating a martyr out of a dying old man was immensely stupid. Let him die of natural causes and it doesn’t lionize him to a bunch of people with zeal.

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Mar 17 2026 12:37am
Maga keeps winning the "fell for it again" award 🤣🤣🤣

The "no new wars!" President ya'll 🤣🤣

How ya'll fall for this stupid shit?

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Mar 17 2026 06:19am
Media buzz aside.

From the USAs side, the escalation ceiling the military has is still huge. There's been a little more than a dozen actual casualties (some from non combat) and no ground footprint. To third worlds it's a War. To the USA, it's a conflict. Yeah the repercussions of what's going on are huge, but the USA has a huge latitude left for Warring outside of tinfoil hat nuclear thoughts.

Hopefully there's enough aggregate weight amongst the balls of our representatives to slow that escalation down through the legislature. So far they seem useless


When you add together the AIPAC lobby and military industrial lobbies, most of that legislature is owned. Even if they wont cheer on the conflict openly they're silently in favor of it. unless we see a midterm blue wave, when politics change from donor lobbies to pure against the other side no matter the issue.

its an odd midterm for sure tho, because most candidates wont run on an anti war platform for fear of losing donor support, so im sure most people wont even address the elephant in the room.
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Mar 17 2026 07:31am
When you add together the AIPAC lobby and military industrial lobbies, most of that legislature is owned. Even if they wont cheer on the conflict openly they're silently in favor of it. unless we see a midterm blue wave, when politics change from donor lobbies to pure against the other side no matter the issue.

its an odd midterm for sure tho, because most candidates wont run on an anti war platform for fear of losing donor support, so im sure most people wont even address the elephant in the room.


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Mar 17 2026 07:51am
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come now :lol:
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I wasnt aware university presidents voted in the senate.

is the israel hack posting now to a point that you deny the affect AIPAC and other israeli organizations have in our legislature?

notice i called out military industrial complex too, but you cant help but feel offended. victim mentality as always i see. oh vey.
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