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Mar 16 2026 11:39am
From -25 to -40 with same pure dmg, same BPs and similar life sounds like a good setup to look into for sure.


yes, definitely.

getting a gg roll on gheeds gonna be a pain though...

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Mar 16 2026 11:46am
yes, definitely.

getting a gg roll on gheeds gonna be a pain though...


"Only" FCR and -magic res really matter tho. If you get those bloodfists, you only need one more FHR% to hit BP so worst FHR roll on gheeds is fine.

Otherwise maybe LOH if you are in need of Fire Res.

Or Chancies if you wanna get on the MF side.

I dont see a better option than these three considering the build. Maybe some trires MF rare gloves or crafted with life dex and high fire res.

Having a kind of "free spot" like this seems good to play around
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"Only" FCR and -magic res really matter tho. If you get those bloodfists, you only need one more FHR% to hit BP so worst FHR roll on gheeds is fine.

Otherwise maybe LOH if you are in need of Fire Res.

Or Chancies if you wanna get on the MF side.

I dont see a better option than these three considering the build. Maybe some trires MF rare gloves or crafted with life dex and high fire res.

Having a kind of "free spot" like this seems good to play around


correct, and im in no way saying my current build is best. its just where i am now, 3 weeks into ladder. but its a tank. only slows at lvl 4/5 heralds.


this is with void/shako/arach
21k dmg / -25% pierce



this is with void/hellwardens/gheeds
21.5k dmg / -40% pierce



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correct, and im in no way was i saying my current build is best. its just where i am now, 3 weeks into ladder.


Oh no respect for you build it is sweet.

I was discussing on the second one you tossed in
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Mar 16 2026 11:51am
This was the theoretical BiS I could come up with on Maxroll. Looks like 15% magic damage does about 1k more total damage per hammer vs -10 magic res

https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/0dfm0e2l

23.5k hammer dmg

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This was the theoretical BiS I could come up with on Maxroll. Looks like 15% magic damage does about 1k more total damage per hammer vs -10 magic res

https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/0dfm0e2l

23.5k hammer dmg


setup like that, a +2/15fcr ammy would work too... and i think your black cleft should be -10% instead. quite certain that would result in more damage.
bk > soj here imo.

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This was the theoretical BiS I could come up with on Maxroll. Looks like 15% magic damage does about 1k more total damage per hammer vs -10 magic res

https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/0dfm0e2l

23.5k hammer dmg


You forgot the 45 life on pcombs and 20 life with your 17 mana and 5@.
Pls add em so we can see final life with the build.
Full mana on ammy and mana SCs hurt my eyes but I understand why they are here
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setup like that, a +2/15fcr ammy would work too...


Or a 15 fcr gheeds with a 2/20 ammy ! Yup
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https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/0dfm0e2l

setup like that, a +2/15fcr ammy would work too... and i think your black cleft should be -10% instead. quite certain that would result in more damage.
bk > soj here imo.


Already tested and +15 is better than -10 with this setup (unless magic immune before sunder).

You forgot the 45 life on pcombs and 20 life with your 17 mana and 5@.
Pls add em so we can see final life with the build.
Full mana on ammy and mana SCs hurt my eyes but I understand why they are here


Updated the build and removed the extra mana roll on ammy for life instead. Only have the xtra mana for QoL as I hate having mana pots on my belt for PvM.
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Mar 16 2026 12:07pm
so weve got:

21k hammer & -25% pierce
sundered mob with 70% magic res = 5250dmg

21.5k hammer & -40% pierce
sunder mob with 55% magic res = 8600dmg

23.5k hammers & -30% pierce
sunder mob with 65% magic res = 7050dmg

this make sense?

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