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Mar 13 2026 01:44am
After playing a blood boil build i noticed how damn POWERFUL these ugly bois are. Holy shit.
I was doing nothing and just the merc hitting something and half the screen was dying.
I'm going to respect my echoing strike to have 2 defilers.

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Mar 13 2026 01:58am
Just keep in mind they're pretty slow to cast in my experience. Echo just kills things so fast, that by the time they cast, they used it on mobs a screen away, and if you miss one, i don't think they recast until the bind wears off, or you resummon it.

I liked them the most on Apocalypse build, since the skill take time to cast anyways, they have plenty of time to bind to monsters you're about to attack. They didn't seem to do much after i swapped to Echo from my own experience.
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Just keep in mind they're pretty slow to cast in my experience. Echo just kills things so fast, that by the time they cast, they used it on mobs a screen away, and if you miss one, i don't think they recast until the bind wears off, or you resummon it.

I liked them the most on Apocalypse build, since the skill take time to cast anyways, they have plenty of time to bind to monsters you're about to attack. They didn't seem to do much after i swapped to Echo from my own experience.


When i was playing blood boil in p1 i was zooming around very fast and they were awesome. I had to be very fast or i wouldn't get mana from the hex since the monsters killed by defilers don't give you life/mana back.
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Mar 13 2026 02:12am
When i was playing blood boil in p1 i was zooming around very fast and they were awesome. I had to be very fast or i wouldn't get mana from the hex since the monsters killed by defilers don't give you life/mana back.


maybe i just had bad luck with them then haha :) if they work good for you though, that's great. Cause they were really good when i used em on Apocalypse. Just they didn't like doing anything for me when i swapped to Echo xD oh well haha
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Mar 13 2026 02:17am
maybe i just had bad luck with them then haha :) if they work good for you though, that's great. Cause they were really good when i used em on Apocalypse. Just they didn't like doing anything for me when i swapped to Echo xD oh well haha


I think they must be even better with echoing. As he is slow in killing small dispersed monsters.
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Mar 13 2026 03:56am
consume >
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consume >


Consume allow you to kill one monster in one hit, but you were already doing that before consuming the goat. Defilers can greatly increase your cleaning speed by hitting monsters you weren't aiming.
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Mar 13 2026 04:06am
Consume allow you to kill one monster in one hit, but you were already doing that before consuming the goat. Defilers can greatly increase your cleaning speed by hitting monsters you weren't aiming.


you've got a demon and two defilers up. that's 3 summons and 0 consumed
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you've got a demon and two defilers up. that's 3 summons and 0 consumed


Yes, the plan is get to 3 summons and 0 consumed to do the usual TZ magic find. That's where defilers shine, killing small shit that runs away.
I can eat the goat to kill ubers when needed.
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Yes, the plan is get to 3 summons and 0 consumed to do the usual TZ magic find. That's where defilers shine, killing small shit that runs away.
I can eat the goat to kill ubers when needed.


the issue is you're missing out on shittons of frw, life and ed with a permanent uptime in order to maybe once a run get an additional aoe boost trigger that you'll barely even notice the effect of
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