Israel is tiny compared to its neighbors. Without US help, it is a matter of logistics. It is going to have to make serious concessions if it wants to survive. If it goes nuclear, it will be destroyed by Pakistan and others. The Israeli army only has practical experience killing prisoners and those who live in Palestinian ghettos. There is not a chance in hell they could lead an offensive infantry march into the mountainous lands of Iran. Iran's missiles are situated hidden inside natural fortifications and they have vehicles and weapons stashed under the mountains. We have only destroyed maybe 30% of their launchers with little to no gains after the initial few days. Our radar systems have been completely taken out in the region. The iron dome has failed. Iranian fired rockets are evading Patriot missiles and striking Tel-Aviv on a daily basis. They have a mainland supply line and support from both Russia and China, as well as other Arabic countries. Strategically, the Persians are forcing their Arab neighbors to either expel the Americans and the Israelis, or be subject to both Hormuz blockade and attacks on US bases within their region. Economically, the US will be forced to retreat. It would be the greatest blunder ever for us to send our own ground troops into Iran. Make no mistake, this is a war of attrition and the Persians have had 30 years to prepare just for this.

Either we pull out and let Israel deal with the consequences of its actions, or it is the end of the great American experiment. We cannot afford this war in any shape or form.

That would destroy the petro dollar and possibly collapse u.s. economy. Iran would have a field day in M.E. GCC is softer than milk. And Israel doesn't have enough weapons/men on their own to fight Iran 1 v 1.



You be surprised how many Muslim majority countries have now friendships with Israel, i am talking military + financial, GCC being biggest. Pakistan president is a trump simp.

This post was edited by Vaatu on Mar 22 2026 04:21am

I always wonder how Israel with a population of roughly 9.5 million people have so much influence over the United States with a population of 350 million or so. I don't have the answer, just a random thought in passing, but it seems a bit weird.

Your analysis overlooks critical historical context and the reality of Israel’s military evolution. where was the US in 1948, 1956, or 1967?
The fact is, during Israel's most existential threats, it stood largely alone:
1948: Israel fought for its survival against five invading Arab armies while under a strict US arms embargo. It won using Czech rifles and sheer grit, not American hardware.
1967: Israel dismantled three major Arab armies in just six days. At that time, its primary supplier was France, not the US.
1973: The US only 'put its chips' on Israel during the Yom Kippur War, and even then, the massive airlift (Operation Nickel Grass) arrived only after Israeli forces had already halted the Syrian and Egyptian advances and were beginning their counter-offensives.
To suggest that the IDF only has experience in 'asymmetric urban' warfare is a fundamental misunderstanding of its doctrine. Israel’s entire military infrastructure its world-class Air Force, intelligence network, and cyber capabilities has been built specifically to neutralize long-range threats like Iran.
While you characterize this as a war of attrition where the 'Persians' are prepared, you underestimate Israel's technological edge and its history of turning the tide when its back is against the wall. History has shown time and again that betting against Israel’s strategic survival is a losing wager.

It’s ironic you chose the name 'Gilgameshed.' The real Gilgamesh was famous for building the invincible Walls of Uruk and defeating the 'undefeatable' Humbaba in its own mountain fortress. He didn't survive by making concessions or hiding he survived by building a legacy that outlasted his doubters.

This post was edited by Many_Names on Mar 22 2026 05:54am

Small hat problems require small mustache solutions.

We remember the USS Liberty.
More and more are waking up to you and your ways.
The giant sleeps no more.
Buckle-up buck-a-roo.

This post was edited by sirthom on Mar 22 2026 06:40am

This may be part of it.

Happy to hear you will be ok when we withdraw. Well, good luck then!

That film was actually made by them, Jews.
They thought it made them look smart and clever.
It's obvious lack of decency or lack of fair play was totally lost on them.
It was used as propaganda against them before and during the second world war.

You should buckle up m8, I am not worried at all