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Mar 10 2026 12:48pm
So, God is smart enough to have a plan...

Jesus was born in Bethlehem for a purpose. There was a census taking place and Jesus' earthly father, Joseph, was required to take part in this census so it was recorded in history.

This census is historically documented, along with Jesus' birth.

The massacre of baby boys (Massacre of the Innocents) shortly thereafter is also documented with the intention of "finding" the King of the Jews.


Well let's see this so called proof then. Arguing from authority switches off your brain. It assumes people wouldn't lie or be mistaken, especially people with a motive like fanatical belief systems or monetary gain.
This is why its important to examine proof for yourself.
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Mar 10 2026 01:15pm
Even if someone here had claimed to have died, met Jesus and came back to life, even that wouldn't convince you. If you will not hear Moses and all the Prophets then nothing will convince you.

Luke 16:19-31 ESV

The Rich Man and Lazarus

19 “There was a rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day. 20 And at his gate was laid a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, 21 who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man's table. Moreover, even the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried, 23 and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side. 24 And he called out, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus to dip the end of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am in anguish in this flame.’ 25 But Abraham said, ‘Child, remember that you in your lifetime received your good things, and Lazarus in like manner bad things; but now he is comforted here, and you are in anguish. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, in order that those who would pass from here to you may not be able, and none may cross from there to us.’ 27 And he said, ‘Then I beg you, father, to send him to my father's house— 28 for I have five brothers—so that he may warn them, lest they also come into this place of torment.’ 29 But Abraham said, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.’ 30 And he said, ‘No, father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’ 31 He said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the Prophets, neither will they be convinced if someone should rise from the dead.’”


Sigh.. Personal testimony is very unreliable form of evidence. Hence thousands of gods.
If you accept personal accounts from people who see christian god then you have to accept all the testimonies from people who see non christian gods and other magical beings.
Are you willing to apply your own logic to other people's visions equally. Ofcourse not because you're a hypocrite who only uses special pleading. This is why Christianity is fake

This is why I ask for hard proof and none of this circumstantial or anecdotal bullshit. Remember extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
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All you need to know about how Christianity is absurd and makes absolutely no sense
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Mar 11 2026 01:39am
the true what the fuckery is in psalms 90 verse 2.
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Sigh.. Personal testimony is very unreliable form of evidence. Hence thousands of gods.
If you accept personal accounts from people who see christian god then you have to accept all the testimonies from people who see non christian gods and other magical beings.
Are you willing to apply your own logic to other people's visions equally. Ofcourse not because you're a hypocrite who only uses special pleading. This is why Christianity is fake

This is why I ask for hard proof and none of this circumstantial or anecdotal bullshit. Remember extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.


So you agree with what the Scripture says. That's good. Now I am fully aware that responding to so many posts at once is an insurmountable mountain for you to climb. So we'll take it more slowly.

How about you respond to this post?

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107619089&f=119&p=683524870#p683524870

You literally said:

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They were shipwreck debris from ships like the Ulysses or SS Carnatic from 19th century


Yet the location of the shipwreck makes no sense how the chariots ended up where they are. Why didn't they just sink to the bottom near the shipwrecks?
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Mar 11 2026 02:23am
So you agree with what the Scripture says.


:huh:

My guy I think you are losing it.
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Sigh.. Personal testimony is very unreliable form of evidence. Hence thousands of gods.
If you accept personal accounts from people who see christian god then you have to accept all the testimonies from people who see non christian gods and other magical beings.
Are you willing to apply your own logic to other people's visions equally. Ofcourse not because you're a hypocrite who only uses special pleading. This is why Christianity is fake

This is why I ask for hard proof and none of this circumstantial or anecdotal bullshit. Remember extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.


Personal testimony is extremely powerful and relied upon in normal life and crucial in courts...... Simple AI google search... Sifting through the chaff is the real talent.


This seems like your lying. And flailing....


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Mar 11 2026 05:19am
:huh:

My guy I think you are losing it.


Another thing. You like to call upon all the thousands of Religions? Let's see, Buddha died and stayed dead. Muhammad died and stayed dead, Confucius died and stayed dead. Yet Jesus died and rose again!

You want to use all the other Religions debate? Here is an article which you won't read that points to why Christianity is the only one that truly makes sense.

https://www.gotquestions.org/correct-religion.html
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Mar 11 2026 10:25am
Well let's see this so called proof then. Arguing from authority switches off your brain. It assumes people wouldn't lie or be mistaken, especially people with a motive like fanatical belief systems or monetary gain.
This is why its important to examine proof for yourself.


statements here are reasonable. its a good place to share something i have been working on for years.
lets see how the 'atheist holds up.

my story begins with the idea to find "the truth of it all" i began my quest with that simple idea. at that time there was no thought of God

perhaps it should first be stated that it has been a blessing to me to have lived this time line. i have been absolutely amazed and astounded at the things i have learned. if this process/methodology is how i became a Christian and Christianity is the truth of it all? then the red carpet was rolled out before me. the thought of a higher power doing something like this is a overwhelming idea.

lets get started

we will be revisiting 'atheist kookery as it unfolds starting from about 150 years ago
the rise and fall of the 'atheist and magical morphing monkeys.
one thing people dont know is the institution of modern science was founded by Christians.
'atheists came later, claimed science as their own through sleight of hand.
i contend 'atheism has not contributed anything of a positive nature to science, have only desecrated the institution of science, living in their imaginations and calling those imaginations "facts".

the curtain rises on a new era. 'atheism begins to make alternative claims. one of those claims is they are the minds of reason. Charles Darwin and the theory of 'evolution. that life wasn't a creation but explained by natural processes. his book "the origin of species" 1859
Darwin though he was a reasonable man. he understood the problems of his theory and he was open and honest about it. unlike the clowns that came after him who up and decided to declare 'evolution a fact.

thus the war for the institution of science began

This post was edited by TiStuff on Mar 11 2026 10:31am
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Personal testimony is extremely powerful and relied upon in normal life and crucial in courts...... Simple AI google search... Sifting through the chaff is the real talent.


This seems like your lying. And flailing....


Extremely powerful in courts?

Can you cite any recent cases where personal testimony visions of god held up and won in court?

Because seems like you are the one lying and failing.


Also
Creationism fails every single time in courts
It is not science but religion masquerading as science, as ruled in McLean v. Arkansas (1982) and affirmed in Edwards v. Aguillard.
Kitzmiller v. Dover (2005)

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