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Mar 9 2026 09:06am
so hex purge or hex siphon what is best?


can someone do a detailed skills list for best echoing stike warlock please?

if u know what is best can u list the best items to use also? i want max resistances and 125 fcr anyone do up a planner link that will amaze us here on jsp plz ? <3


i want to hear it from the pros in a clean discussion thread
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Mar 9 2026 09:09am
neither, max blood oath and what ever it takes to get lvl 21 demon mastery after bo
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Siphon can help you fix your sustain early.

What’s best on a high end build?
Neither.

20 echo
20 mirrored blades
20 blade warp
20 blood oath
1 bind demon
Enough hard points to reach lvl 20 demonic mastery after +skills but before cta (so you don’t lose a demon when it expires)

You have very few points left then…
1 in Siphon can still help your sustain against all those mobs with zero drain effectiveness.
I used to recommend dumping remaining points in consume (generally better than levitation mastery) but tbh you can already achieve overkill dmg without even using consume.

So you have a choice…
Use 2 defilers (no consume) to increase your AoE dmg. This is better for general density destroying. In this case you can dump remaining pts in levitation.
Or
Dump remaining pts in consume. This is pushing your smaller linear/cone AoE dmg even further, as well as giving you more life. This is ideal if you plan on farming ubers/ancients. You can still use 2x defilers for general pvm if you chose this approach. A point in sigil:lethargy can be worth it against those tankier end game bosses, but don’t even bother with it vs regular bosses… they melt.
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Mar 9 2026 09:47am
ok guys i have a question is there a better build then this in this link https://maxroll.gg/d2/guides/echoing-strike-warlock-guide ???????????



max levitation over hex purge is better ?

This post was edited by recoveryprooo on Mar 9 2026 09:49am
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ok guys i have a question is there a better build then this in this link https://maxroll.gg/d2/guides/echoing-strike-warlock-guide ???????????



max levitation over hex purge is better ?


Burn this link
Goddamn the amount of hilariously noob stuff written in there XD
Ultra expensive - check
Ultra bad - check
Some completely brainless decisions like putting um in helm and jewel in shield, while going the other way around is just +22@ instead of +15@. And it’s bugging out the ed% already on Ars Dul.
Small detail, massive mistake.
But this isn’t the worst… the person who wrote this just has no idea about… well about pretty much everything tbh.

I already told you in my previous post about the hexes, levitation mastery and all those things. Read it.

Now give me a minute… I’ll give you a build that is a lot cheaper and a lot better than what is described in this link you posted.
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Mar 9 2026 10:16am
How to get 125fcr and max res?

Insight
Spirit mon 30+ (absolutely good enough) or an expensive 30fcr Ars Dul Mephisto + Um
Arach
Mage/trang
20fcr circ (nothing fancy needed) or even hellwarden, or you can also get the last 20fcr from rings/amy

35+30+20+20+20‎ = 125

You get your res from:
Torch/anni/scs
Spirit or Um’d Ars Dul Meph
Helm slot (could have innate res on circ, or just from what you socket in whatever helm)

You can get your leech from 2x BK and push your dmg further with HL (if you use a 20fcr helm).
Or you can get your leech from 2x rare rings with fcr, which could also help you get max res.
HL and gores are hard to beat early, but as you upgrade your other gear pieces, you’ll eventually reach overkill dmg even without them. You can then use 1 or even 2 of those slots to fix your survivability if you still struggle with it. Mara is fine. Res boots are fine (aldurs can fix your fire res if you use spirit, else some dual or tri res rare boots can also help you freeing up inventory space if you were using res charms).

You can easily reach a point where you have more than what you need on every aspect, without aiming for expensive items.
With the core gear listed above, pride+might merc, a few skillers... add a renewed bone break and protector jewel? Man your dmg is way beyond what you need.
Echoing strikes has high chances to be nerfed, and we can only speculate on what will be done, if anything is done at all. So until at least next season, I would strongly recommend that you don’t break the bank on this build that is already obliterating hell on p8. The meta may soon be redefined. Expensive gear options like eth Fort TM may soon be impossible to use (if they fix the bug about no hit check being made, it’s almost guaranteed that it will use durability).
But even in the current state of the game, insight is BiS if you give more importance to all other gear pieces instead of caring so much about upgrading insight to something else.
Once you have a pride+might merc, a few skillers, you couldn’t possibly ask for more dmg than what insight provides you.

Best insight base?
Archon staff.
No reqs.
Same avg dmg as CV (91).
+50% dmg to undead.
Better min dmg (this makes it easier to achieve a more standardized number of hits required to kill, which is a big plus in a repetitive game like D2 when you can simply cast once, or twice, to constantly finish the kill instead of holding click until your target is dead due to a huge difference between your min/max dmg).
If you maximize your other gear pieces, you can reach some whooping 700k dps even if you use a NON ETH insight. That’s something worth considering if, like me, you believe that they’ll eventually patch echoing strikes. And if it’s fixed to perform a hit check like it should, the higher bonus ar% on insight will just further push it as the clear BiS option.

Easier to get bases?
Elder staff and Shillelagh
Theyre a bit more common, they get 4os from larzuk
They have the same average base dmg as GPA (86.5) but better min dmg and +50% dmg to undead.
So those 2 other options also outclass any polearm.

This post was edited by SinsOfTheSun on Mar 9 2026 10:23am
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Mar 9 2026 10:35am
Siphon can help you fix your sustain early.

What’s best on a high end build?
Neither.

20 echo
20 mirrored blades
20 blade warp
20 blood oath
1 bind demon
Enough hard points to reach lvl 20 demonic mastery after +skills but before cta (so you don’t lose a demon when it expires)

You have very few points left then…
1 in Siphon can still help your sustain against all those mobs with zero drain effectiveness.
I used to recommend dumping remaining points in consume (generally better than levitation mastery) but tbh you can already achieve overkill dmg without even using consume.

So you have a choice…
Use 2 defilers (no consume) to increase your AoE dmg. This is better for general density destroying. In this case you can dump remaining pts in levitation.
Or
Dump remaining pts in consume. This is pushing your smaller linear/cone AoE dmg even further, as well as giving you more life. This is ideal if you plan on farming ubers/ancients. You can still use 2x defilers for general pvm if you chose this approach. A point in sigil:lethargy can be worth it against those tankier end game bosses, but don’t even bother with it vs regular bosses… they melt.



Really can’t argue with this
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Mar 9 2026 10:37am
How to get 125fcr and max res?

Insight
Spirit mon 30+ (absolutely good enough) or an expensive 30fcr Ars Dul Mephisto + Um
Arach
Mage/trang
20fcr circ (nothing fancy needed) or even hellwarden, or you can also get the last 20fcr from rings/amy

35+30+20+20+20‎ = 125

You get your res from:
Torch/anni/scs
Spirit or Um’d Ars Dul Meph
Helm slot (could have innate res on circ, or just from what you socket in whatever helm)

You can get your leech from 2x BK and push your dmg further with HL (if you use a 20fcr helm).
Or you can get your leech from 2x rare rings with fcr, which could also help you get max res.
HL and gores are hard to beat early, but as you upgrade your other gear pieces, you’ll eventually reach overkill dmg even without them. You can then use 1 or even 2 of those slots to fix your survivability if you still struggle with it. Mara is fine. Res boots are fine (aldurs can fix your fire res if you use spirit, else some dual or tri res rare boots can also help you freeing up inventory space if you were using res charms).

You can easily reach a point where you have more than what you need on every aspect, without aiming for expensive items.
With the core gear listed above, pride+might merc, a few skillers... add a renewed bone break and protector jewel? Man your dmg is way beyond what you need.
Echoing strikes has high chances to be nerfed, and we can only speculate on what will be done, if anything is done at all. So until at least next season, I would strongly recommend that you don’t break the bank on this build that is already obliterating hell on p8. The meta may soon be redefined. Expensive gear options like eth Fort TM may soon be impossible to use (if they fix the bug about no hit check being made, it’s almost guaranteed that it will use durability).
But even in the current state of the game, insight is BiS if you give more importance to all other gear pieces instead of caring so much about upgrading insight to something else.
Once you have a pride+might merc, a few skillers, you couldn’t possibly ask for more dmg than what insight provides you.

Best insight base?
Archon staff.
No reqs.
Same avg dmg as CV (91).
+50% dmg to undead.
Better min dmg (this makes it easier to achieve a more standardized number of hits required to kill, which is a big plus in a repetitive game like D2 when you can simply cast once, or twice, to constantly finish the kill instead of holding click until your target is dead due to a huge difference between your min/max dmg).
If you maximize your other gear pieces, you can reach some whooping 700k dps even if you use a NON ETH insight. That’s something worth considering if, like me, you believe that they’ll eventually patch echoing strikes. And if it’s fixed to perform a hit check like it should, the higher bonus ar% on insight will just further push it as the clear BiS option.


Didn't read but I agree
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Mar 9 2026 10:46am
Here's a simple example showcasing why the build is completely busted.
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/4s18w0cc

No skillers, no Ars Dul, 30fcr spirit, a plain 2/20 magic circ, aldur boots, 2x BK
620k dps
if you add 6 skillers, you reach 755k dps
and I can guarantee you that pretty much anything you try to replace by a more expensive "upgrade" would only make the build worse.

And at this point, if you're willing to spend so much fgs to upgrade such a build, you'd better just respec and push the limits of blood boil, cuz BB is even more absurdly busted if you push it.

This post was edited by SinsOfTheSun on Mar 9 2026 10:48am
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Another note:

There's a few users who also promote Obsession as a good weapon choice.
Not bad.
It can even allow you to create an absolutely unkillable warlock by unlocking the possibility to use SS, on an over-stacked res/DR setup that is still seriously dealing more than enough dmg.
What I don't like about this one is the 24% ctc weaken.
It often overrides your amp, and even if amp is re-applied each 2s by your demon's holy freeze/fire/shock, sometimes weaken just re-triggers forever.
Not dramatic in most cases, but pretty lame vs immunes.
So IMO, instead of using a more expensive Obsession, lowering your QoL by loosing meditation and constant amp.... just use insight.

The only thing I would consider over insight is ondals, for lvling purposes. But even then... 5% xp over making your life easier is debatable.
Ondals is only 4.3% more xp if you already have 15% from anni/protector.
So insight's higher dmg and QoL might as well result in more xp/min on the long run.
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