Eth archon staff.

with any skills or anything? is it really that good? more damage than fort?

This post was edited by Painforest on Mar 8 2026 09:17pm

bro youre coping ther is no way a tiny damage staff will beat out my eth war pike no way it has some utility but is such a strange option i guess do you.

This post was edited by Painforest on Mar 8 2026 09:26pm

You can get to around 600k dps when using a purely defensive setup with obsession + SS for over stacked res/DR and 43% dmg to demons
and that's without even using consume, cuz when you already have that much overkill dmg, better just use 2x defilers to spread the dmg even more

This lets you afk in the middle of most dangerous packs, go smoke one, then come back and obliterate the whole screen with 1 click.

So people really need to stop giving so much importance to their weapon... it's the least of your concern.
Get a basic insight + spirit mon, nothing fancy. Keep your budget for what matters.
Get enigma. Get pride. Get 125fcr. Fix your survivability/leech. Make sure you have 20 hard points in blood oath and lvl 20 (after +skills but before BC) in demonic mastery.
Then and only then you should care about the weapon. Cuz when you got all the other much more needed gear, even your starting lvl 1 dagger is enough to 1 hit kill mobs on p8.
A simple/cheap insight + spirit mon will already result in a build that won't make it possible to notice any positive impact if you "upgrade" them to more expensive options.
"Upgrading" to something like arioc, death, doom, fort, botd will only be bigger number on paper, but make you lose crit chance, fcr and the QoL of meditation.
"Upgrading" to obsession can only fix your defensive stats, but you still sacrifice crit, meditation, and the ctc% of weaken is annoyingly overriding your amp. So this one is only an "upgrade" if you messed up the rest of your build.

Same logic goes for your shield.
If at some point you reach a moment where you are done upgrading your armor/helm/amy/boot/belt/gloves/rings/inv/merc, chances are high that anything else than your spirit mon will just be an expensive downgrade.

Ondals bis until 99

i like this response a lot ty. 600k dps like tooltip on the echoing strike? or where are you getting these damage numbers? so should i use my pride + phoenix?? what does blood oath do im reading it i dont get it. unless i get e 2/20 amulet i cant hit 125 with fort and phoenix ):

if i find one ill try it

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bis for 75/125 build is always insight , there is no need to spend so much on etmaul fort , ebod wpike ,fort e warpike etc

even perf 4 skill eth arioc needle with Lo get out damage by high 6cs eth insight staff

This post was edited by Onyxdian on Mar 8 2026 09:50pm

The tooltip is not showing you dps or dmg, just the skill stats.
You character screen is showing you dmg, not dps.
I get these dps numbers by calculating them, simple maths.


Pride yes, on merc.
Phoenix no. Expensive noob trap. If you made the mistake of buying it, sell it, or use it on a fire sorc/druid/warlock or whatever, but not on this build.


Each hard point (not soft point form +skills) is making you 2% more tanky, on top of all your other dmg reductions from res/DR/mdr/pdr/sorb, up to 43% at 20 hard points.
This is by far the single best defensive skill in the game, all classes included.
Some examples:
If you are down to -100 res, instead of taking 200% dmg you take 114% dmg.
If you are at 75 res, instead of taking 25% dmg you take 14.25% dmg.
If you are at 8% DR, instead of taking 92% dmg you take 52.4% dmg.


I'm glad if you enjoyed it, but I doubt you understood it.
You wouldn't be asking me this if you understood what I wrote:

Appreciate the insights here @sins - out of curiosity what is the full meta gear setup you'd recommend at the moment?