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Fire is good, harder to get going

Minion builds can clear the game while you afk but they’re obviously not fast


well in the sense that a TS sorc can clear the game while afk but she's obviously not fast if she doesn't teleport around casting nova
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The moment they fix ES checking AR, the stat opportunity cost will be a decent nerf.

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mirrored blade build with demon machine and maxing hex : bane is also a very good build its not as cheap to build as the ES busted build but it does come online as soon as you get your hands on a bow/crossbow that fire exploding arrow/bolts and as you do a mix of physical/magic/fire damages you don't even need a sunder even without a binded demon with ConvictionOrHolyFreeze/Cursed

ofc to optimise the build you need to get as close to 100% piece asap but demon machine + razortail will do just fine and as an helm you can use a hellwarden will as it does have everything you need on it

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mirrored blade build with demon machine and maxing hex : bane is also a very good build its not as cheap to build as the ES busted build but it does come online as soon as you get your hands on a bow/crossbow that fire exploding arrow/bolts and as you do a mix of physical/magic/fire damages you don't even need a sunder even without a binded demon with ConvictionOrHolyFreeze/Cursed

ofc to optimise the build you need to get as close to 100% piece asap but demon machine + razortail will do just fine and as an helm you can use a hellwarden will as it does have everything you need on it


what is the interaction with demon machine and mirrored blades?
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what is the interaction with demon machine and mirrored blades?


you shoot exploding arrows x5 like a cluster shoot here a look at what it look like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFN3gaYQhDM

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you shoot exploding arrows x5 like a cluster shoot here a look at what it look like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFN3gaYQhDM


hmm... how does raven claw or the other exploding bows/xbows compare?
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hmm... how does raven claw or the other exploding bows/xbows compare?


they work but the lack of pierce can make the build not as strong as it could so best is demon machine 66%piece 2nd best is kuko shakaku 50% and then come the others the lower the attack speed / physical damage the worst weapon it is for the build (you can still get 66% pierce on those weapons with a wisdom helm and a razortail) the thing is that pierce let you really exploit the fact that exploding arrows/bolts trigger the damage each time they hit another enemy
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what is the interaction with demon machine and mirrored blades?


Mirrored blade projectiles don't have nextdelay and can shotgun on the same target, and their explosions can also shotgun. But they only carry +fire damage on the char onto the explosions
So you can get your choice of some permutation of
>mediocre physical damage x 5 projectiles that shotgun per-target
>good magic damage x 5 projectiles that shotgun per-target
>terrible fire damage x 5 explosions that shotgun 5x-per-target

With an enchant sorc of course it goes nutty. But the +magic damage from hex bane is only applying to targets you hit directly, not the shotgunning overlapping aoes of exploding arrows
so for example if you hit 5 enemies with 5 arrows with 10 more clustered enemies, they all get hit by 25x your fire damage, but only the 5 hit take 5x your physical/magic damage
There aren't really many ways to load up on fire damage. Maybe you could have some stupidly contrived +fire sc build. You can get +205 from horazon's gloves, +31 per facet, 40 on the uber jewel. You can maybe get some extra from +% fire included above demon limb or full horazon set, but its still about ~99-150. Kuko is +110 but only 50% pierce / 7 exploding.

but yeah you have to go pretty deep to even hit ~1200 fire damage
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they work but the lack of pierce can make the build not as strong as it could so best is demon machine 66%piece 2nd best is kuko shakaku 50% and then come the others the lower the attack speed / physical damage the worst weapon it is for the build (you can still get 66% pierce on those weapons with a wisdom helm and a razortail) the thing is that pierce let you really exploit the fact that exploding arrows/bolts trigger the damage each time they hit another enemy


Mirrored blade projectiles don't have nextdelay and can shotgun on the same target, and their explosions can also shotgun. But they only carry +fire damage on the char onto the explosions
So you can get your choice of some permutation of
>mediocre physical damage x 5 projectiles that shotgun per-target
>good magic damage x 5 projectiles that shotgun per-target
>terrible fire damage x 5 explosions that shotgun 5x-per-target

With an enchant sorc of course it goes nutty. But the +magic damage from hex bane is only applying to targets you hit directly, not the shotgunning overlapping aoes of exploding arrows
so for example if you hit 5 enemies with 5 arrows with 10 more clustered enemies, they all get hit by 25x your fire damage, but only the 5 hit take 5x your physical/magic damage
There aren't really many ways to load up on fire damage. Maybe you could have some stupidly contrived +fire sc build. You can get +205 from horazon's gloves, +31 per facet, 40 on the uber jewel. You can maybe get some extra from +% fire included above demon limb or full horazon set, but its still about ~99-150. Kuko is +110 but only 50% pierce / 7 exploding.

but yeah you have to go pretty deep to even hit ~1200 fire damage


thx, sold my raven claw to charsi and sticking with apoc/flame wave for now as a cow bbq'r
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