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Mar 6 2026 10:06am
Just admit that you were wrong, focusing on dmg vs non-immunes.

And optimized your build for a wrong parameter :)


I am posting my very first post about this, and I have circled specifically what I said regards to this, since you appear to have less than a 5th grade reading level. yes, sorry I optimized for killing 90% of the monster 3x faster while taking the hit of taking 2 seconds more for the 5% lightning immune



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and wtf does this have to do with warlock. you are just bringing warlock in to obfuscate the fact that you were wrong


Usually when people post confused like this, they're doing it on 4chan and assuming every anon is every other anon
I said right in reply #1 how they stack up and that's what the math shows.
Its a build that's basically a midget version of the warlock, doing the same thing but much worse at it. Less dps, in a smaller aoe, more crippled vs immunes, without the survivability, with a dinky version of passive damage
its not like its hard math, you figure out your base nova damage, your total % light skill including mastery/facets, and the resists your target will have, and multiply 3 numbers. Multiply it by 25/7 if you want DPS
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Usually when people post confused like this, they're doing it on 4chan and assuming every anon is every other anon
I said right in reply #1 how they stack up and that's what the math shows.
Its a build that's basically a midget version of the warlock, doing the same thing but much worse at it. Less dps, in a smaller aoe, more crippled vs immunes, without the survivability, with a dinky version of passive damage
its not like its hard math, you figure out your base nova damage, your total % light skill including mastery/facets, and the resists your target will have, and multiply 3 numbers. Multiply it by 25/7 if you want DPS


but what does the warlock comparison have to do with the clear data I presented that the 200 FCR build does more damage per second to every monster not lightning immune while letting you teleport faster at the expense of not having insight?

EDIT: on my re-review of your OG comment, I see you were talking about warlock, so I apologize for dragging you into this. I was meaning to quote the other retarded people who kept telling me I was simply looking at the damage number on my in game screen

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I am posting my very first post about this, and I have circled specifically what I said regards to this, since you appear to have less than a 5th grade reading level. yes, sorry I optimized for killing 90% of the monster 3x faster while taking the hit of taking 2 seconds more for the 5% lightning immune

https://i.imgur.com/Mbw3bCr.png


Because when you use a knife to cut through the meat with bone…

You need to choose a knife that will cut well through the bone.

And not the one that cuts through meat the quickest.
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Mar 6 2026 10:12am
Because when you use a knife to cut through the meat with bone…

You need to choose a knife that will cut well through the bone.

And not the one that cuts through meat the quickest.


great. so the math doesn't check out, so let's make up idioms
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Because when you use a knife to cut through the meat with bone…

You need to choose a knife that will cut well through the bone.

And not the one that cuts through meat the quickest.




So basically, using your logic, when you make a Hammerdin, instead of maxing ur hammer damage, you are concerned about the magic immune monsters, so you prioritize ur smite DPS to be able to kill those guys faster, at the expensive of doing 1/3 the damge with your blessed hammer

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Mar 6 2026 10:13am
Damage versus non-immunes is completely irrelevant here. What actually matters is damage against immunes, and a 105 build does more damage to them. There’s a reason people run it instead of a 200 build. It’s the meta for a reason. The 105 setup is simply the superior build, because the math supports it. You can use the objectively better build, or you can go full tard & tele faster.
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great. so the math doesn't check out, so let's make up idioms


It’s a perfect analogy. And the math checks out perfectly as well.

You just don’t want to admit it because you are now to emotionally invested in shouting at people and calling them stupid for trying to correct your build :rolleyes:
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Damage versus non-immunes is completely irrelevant here. What actually matters is damage against immunes, and a 105 build does more damage to them. There’s a reason people run it instead of a 200 build. It’s the meta for a reason. The 105 setup is simply the superior build, because the math supports it. You can use the objectively better build, or you can go full tard & tele faster.


just saying "the math supports it" does not make it true. I literally just showed the math for eveyr monster.

Do you know what averages are? When you kill 80-95% of the monsters 3x as fast, and then for the 5% of monsters, it takes you 20% more time, do you know that on average, you are killing them faster? this is simply math.
the "meta" is self weild bc its relatively easier to build, and its simpler to copy people, just like when microbioboi told everyone "ariocs does most dmg" when he never even calculated the dmg for 125 FCR insight, and every dumbass is paying 20k for eth ariocs. that's not "meta" thats just people copying someone they think is smart
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So basically, using your logic, when you make a Hammerdin, instead of maxing ur hammer damage, you are concerned about the magic immune monsters, so you prioritize ur smite DPS to be able to kill those guys faster, at the expensive of doing 1/3 the damge with your blessed hammer


Hammerdins care about killing magic immunes about as much as a nova sorc cares about killing ubers
Do you find yourself opening many portals to uber tristram on a nova sorc?
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