No we aren't on the same page. You didn't even have a GF baba so stay in your lane. Otherwise you would know it wouldn't work with D2NT for starters. And you would know about the temp bans using a char like this if you did have one.

I think you're extremely confused.

Temp bans and game limits are the same thing. One is a result of the other.

You were arguing with thread author telling him game limits didn't exist. I just chimed in to correct you, no need to throw random assumptions around you're clearly out of your depth and it's out for everyone to see.

I would also be embarrased if i was a 09 spawn and didn't know about game limits, but hey, it's okay, never late to learn.

Again you didn't have a GF char like this so you don't know what you are talking about. It's not just about game time limits it's about gameplay too. Just like you said with fast clicking. The GF barb doesn't just create games and sit there doing nothing or slow bot around like D2NT chars. Just like OP said some people spam leap right? Well your top tier barbs spam Warcry like this.
Incase you didn't know you could get temps for gambling fast too. I'm surprised you don't know this seeings you know about the gambler sitting in the game where people would drop gold. Or did you never actually gamble full horks like this game after game?
Just like the old torches that would spawn firestorm 25% not 5% and drop games the baba would get temp bans for certain gameplay things too. How I know this cos I actually played this character high tier unlike you guys.

high tier goldfind barbarian who waits for his merc to hit things gambling on every game to avoid temp bans

this is cute as hell but please keep it to yourself lmao

Nope. Merc doesn't do all the killing with an elite GF build like this. Warcry does the damage too with FCR breakpoints. Again don't comment on something you know nothing about.
And no you don't gamble every game. You stop after 5 travs or so to do the gamble.
The char is not just used for that though. The main purpose of the build for me was a support char for BVBs. When you have 8x bvbers going at it in a game it requires ALOT of gold for repair. So you bring in your GF baba into the bvb game and hork when that happens to drop gold for the duels to continue. Another good part of the build is when you have a team or bot leveling doing chaos/baals you can hork alot of gold/bosses for extras. Plus your warcry can stop the waves quicker in baal and speed up the baal runs. The build is not just for gambling.

This post was edited by Insein on Mar 5 2026 02:55am

Suddenly this all makes sense. You came to this thread to talk about Singer Barbs.

Op reckons these barbs existed probably due to a lack of serious testing or because people were unknowlegable. I'm just explaining to him why these OG builds were the way they were seeings he's stated he's baffled and confused about it.
Also he's putting this into a guide so I'm hoping he writes a new guide with all this in mind.

OG barbs had things to deal with D2R doesn't. Temp bans, small stash size, no tokens to reset for leveling, mules to have to create new games for, having to click more when gambling because you couldn't refresh the screen etc, having to click to pickup gold.
These are the reasons the old builds differ.

This post was edited by Insein on Mar 5 2026 04:54am

Keep repeating the same stuff, I'm sure eventually this will make sense.

The guide in the OP is already outdated anyway due to game limitations being removed & a lot of updates coming in, but there was never a point in D2:LOD where the limitations you've mentioned were particularly relevant to goldfinding strategies.
I understand that you seem to think they were, but they just weren't. You're talking about stash size like we were all dealing with Classic stashes in LOD, which...what the fuck are you talking about?

We used to gamble => close window => gamble. So what? How is this relevant whatsofuckingever to Trav strategies? No one gambled in the same game they farmed the Gold in if they were concerned with just gathering the gold up. It took 5-6 runs to Gold Cap anyway for most people since the cap wasn't 10M~ + 10k*cLvl but 2.5M+10k*cLvl.
Now the cap in D2R ROTW is basically 15M+10k*cLvl.

That still doesn't change anything to the gambling process. You cleared Trav, logged out, farmed until gold cap, swapped to Edge for the gamble session & moved on with your life.
Doing the whole charm swap/stashing process EVERY GAME is just retarded.

It's not like you COULDN'T create a game quickly, you were just capped on hourly/daily. Plenty of people ran other CD Keys just to make games to work around game caps.

This post was edited by Exokek on Mar 5 2026 05:09am

yeah idk what the fuck is even going on here, I'm so confused

Do I really need to further explain?

Gamble - close window - gamble.
Ok so in D2R you state everyone has access to a baseline gold cap of 10 million gold across their main stash & their 3 Shared Stash tabs.

In OG days in D2 if you gambled all of this gold in one hit you would get temp ban. I know this could happen because it did happen. If some other chars would come in/mule and gold dump for you to repetitively gamble you couldn't go flatout doing that. Likely because of the extra clicking you would have to do or D2 just had a cap on how much you could spam Gheed because of bots. So the optimal gambling would be to clear out once you hit a decent amount not when you maxed out all your chars...like I said you clear out after 5 trav runs or so.

And stash size did matter. Lets say you have 3 or 4 really low trav runs. Instead of chilling out for 10min it was more optimal to have a higher GF items in the stash and do a slower run.
So now in your stash you got edge, tomb reaver, wealth, 2x extra GCs or 4x extra scs instead of the cube. You also needed this if you wanted to hork a MASSIVE gold stash and get back to dueling because duels require ALOT of repairs. GF barbs went hand in hand with dueling guilds too especially BVB ones.

Now you have to consider leveling up. No tokens. So if you are joining a full c/baal game or doing higher areas for xp solo you need a few extra items in stash. Bo helm, +3 warcry amy, demon limb to buff so everything doesn't die.
Otherwise you couldn't level your char unless you did this with a different build with one of the 3x reset options or botted it first which was kinda cheating. The 3x reset options were vital to keep for the GF build if you found an item upgrade like a GF amy with higher str or something. So you didn't want to sacrifice those reset options for leveling.

So now your stash is filling. But it fills even more when you gamble with edge you have 2x crystal swords to swap out also. And you have to swap out 2x gcs and 2x scs to gamble sacred armors or if you get 2x circlets in one gamble screen.
Now your stash is maxing out. Not much space left for drops/flawless gems or anything.