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Mar 4 2026 10:54pm
What is better for getting "more rich" ?
I'm using a MF sorc doing some MF runs like
tkey, andy, hkey, meph, pindle
but I found nothing... im above 300 % mf tho.

I feel like TZ can be so much better with no mf gear.
What you guys think ?
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Mar 4 2026 11:00pm
Check out diminishing returns on MF after a certain point. I wouldn’t say go 0 MF but around 250 you’re probably good to go.

Also, boss TZs always give me something cool eventually , but honestly it’s all RNG, chaos monsters have the same drop table as a TZ monster so you’re not changing the drop tables or the drop rate. 250 mf + clearspeed is what I’d be after. Then farm where you enjoy where the drop table is the best for what you’re looking for. Google monster i levels at what areas for more specific data bc i can’t remember that
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Mar 4 2026 11:01pm
You should have no problem "getting rich" with an MF sorc, it's all RNG of course still and all comes down to how fast you can get in and get out.

Most people are fine only having 200-300 MF and still do well. I personally always do my MF sorcs with about 500-550 and still manage at least 6k dps with blizzard using occy with +1 skillers before anni and torch and without a cta. Add in cta, a fathom, anni and a torch and you can push 10k+ while still having around 500MF.

Are you going to each of these bosses in a single game, or picking one boss to run at a time for several games in a row? If your doing all every run, I would start just picking a single thing to run for 30-60 minutes at a time. You should be able to do Andy runs in around 1-1.5 minutes from start to finish for example.

Speed is what will get you rich.
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Mar 4 2026 11:25pm
Pure key runner would be the best at early ladder imo.
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Mar 4 2026 11:27pm
Can't TZ with mf?
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Mar 4 2026 11:30pm
Can't TZ with mf?


not really... depends on TZ ... im fire sorc so when its Chaos TZ i cant make it of course
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Mar 4 2026 11:36pm
Maybe try to find P3 or p5 games to decrease the no drop chance. Public or bring your own fillers
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Mar 4 2026 11:39pm
not really... depends on TZ ... im fire sorc so when its Chaos TZ i cant make it of course


Fborber.
Solved.

Although chaos is bad run for anything but nova tbh, even blizz seems sluggish with sunder.

If solo just make a specific din for chaos. Dual spirit foh will melt it.

As for getting rich? That windows closing faster and faster each day.
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Mar 4 2026 11:47pm
not really... depends on TZ ... im fire sorc so when its Chaos TZ i cant make it of course


Fire sorc can full clear durance level 3 which is like part trav, part pits, plus meph.
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Mar 4 2026 11:58pm
Check out diminishing returns on MF after a certain point. I wouldn’t say go 0 MF but around 250 you’re probably good to go.

Also, boss TZs always give me something cool eventually , but honestly it’s all RNG, chaos monsters have the same drop table as a TZ monster so you’re not changing the drop tables or the drop rate. 250 mf + clearspeed is what I’d be after. Then farm where you enjoy where the drop table is the best for what you’re looking for. Google monster i levels at what areas for more specific data bc i can’t remember that


Lieutenants and Dia himself dont have the same drop table as a TZ monster. They cant drop most of the TC87 items such as Tyraels.
And TZ monster have way better odds at the higher TC items than their non TZ version, even if this non TZ version can spawn the item it is still better to hit TZ than normal version, if you speak odds wise.
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