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Mar 1 2026 04:01pm
his video actually recommends eth atrioc's
https://youtu.be/4s11o9pUZ3k?si=5jlHfzXsd0GLiWUf
maybe the linked build just isn't updated

oddly enough, he doesn't have obsession archon staff listed at all. is it a new discovery?


oh maybe I wasn't being clear
he's taking the short bus
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Mar 1 2026 04:04pm
his video actually recommends eth atrioc's
https://youtu.be/4s11o9pUZ3k?si=5jlHfzXsd0GLiWUf
maybe the linked build just isn't updated

oddly enough, he doesn't have obsession archon staff listed at all. is it a new discovery?


this is a dps list
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Mar 1 2026 04:06pm
I heard you saying that a high end fire lock can also beat echo

what would that fire core build look like?


not sure if you want to go 75 or 125 fcr with the fire delays depends on the areas you're farming, just the basics like mang song, enigma, ars diablos, +2/20 circlet or 3/20, +2/20 ammy, magefist, arachs, fcr rings or sojs for 75, resist boots
at some point the damage is just high enough you're killing p8 chaos/throne unique packs in 2-3 casts with a much bigger aoe than echoing strikes
all the other builds feel really awkward after being on a blood boil setup because its like a hammerdin on crack where you can just spam without aiming and everything dies instantly in a huge aoe
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Mar 1 2026 04:10pm
this is a dps list
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Mar 1 2026 04:12pm
Eth ariocs will give the most damage, on a char who already has wildly overkill amounts of damage.

An eth fort tmaul setup is getting ~480 base weapon damage added to echoing strikes and +20% DS (72% ds / 29% crit = 80.12%) and about 20-25% off-weapon %ed from strength on maul class
Swapping in obsession/bk/laying gets you ~102 base damage and +640 skill damage from +4 skills (52% ds / 30% crit = 66.4%) as well as +350% off-weapon %ed vs demons and another +56% offweapon %ed from the skill and mastery and consume. And then it also gets +4 bind demon / demonic mastery / hex siphon / psychic ward / etc
So the tmaul has 480 damage +20% ds and obsession has 742 and a gorillion upsides from all its +resists, +life, +fcr, +4 skills, +mf.

Then the linked build is also utterly nanners and poorly thought out because its not just low resists, but dumping points into strength on a char with overkill dps and only has 1 point blood oath, when 20 hard points in blood oath gives a 43% all damage taken reduction (including elemental)



also this but I got even faster than the echoing strike build by just being a member of the blood boil master race


koolios. i've since been warlock cleaving and it feels great as well
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Mar 1 2026 04:15pm
like OP


i mean this is just one of the resources i found lol. I'm not gonna spend a few hours calculating the exact pros/cons of each equipment piece. That's something I'd do 10 years ago when I had more time. I'm a lot more privy to just having someone summarize the math so I can read it, loosely fact check, and mindlessly copy
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Mar 1 2026 04:17pm
ath arbilocs doesnt have 60 faster run rate


Obsession has fhr not frw :P
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Mar 1 2026 04:22pm
i mean this is just one of the resources i found lol. I'm not gonna spend a few hours calculating the exact pros/cons of each equipment piece. That's something I'd do 10 years ago when I had more time. I'm a lot more privy to just having someone summarize the math so I can read it, loosely fact check, and mindlessly copy


yes sadly people just mindlessly spew whatever idea they come up with and upload it to get clicks without proper testing.

i see guides for all classes from the same guy and can tell you theres no way he extensively tested all of them, just random ideas thrown up for views
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Mar 1 2026 04:24pm
YouTubers just release videos for $$$, not because they're knowledgeable or genuinely interested in producing quality videos. It's about the grift.
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Mar 1 2026 04:55pm
Get the cheapest anni and other class torch. Easy 20-30 resists and stats.

Cheapest mara will give another 20 resists. Then the cheapest shimmering gc for +15 resists.
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