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Feb 28 2026 11:03am
boys I just learned that sunders cannot drop from the first 3 heralds in a game….. That is crazy to me. Just wanted to kinda spread awareness on that because I don’t think everyone knows that!

So basically you must be grinding worldstone shards, even large 30 minute tz areas will not get you to the 4th herald to even get a chance at a 1/270 drop sunder. (MAYBE tal Tasha’s, but i think skipping heralds and grinding statues there is the way to go)

Only thing I dont really know now is the drop chance of a sunder on a rank 5 herald compared to rank 4. If rank 4 is 1/270, what is rank 5? I am assuming 1/270 still but if anyone knows different let me know!
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Feb 28 2026 11:05am
the mechanic still unknown, they dont got the gust to release the damn patch note lol. if this is how you get the charm, pretty bullshit. I went through entire act not seeing more then 2 spawn, the spawn rate just bullshit in the first place

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Feb 28 2026 11:10am
They can drop for tier 1-3 heralds, just at a low rate

The early datamine was wrong, there are multiple sunder TCs now or something weird
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Feb 28 2026 11:12am
ill never get one, who has the time or patience to play for multiple hours. This game is not supposed to be this hard.
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Feb 28 2026 11:17am
ill never get one, who has the time or patience to play for multiple hours. This game is not supposed to be this hard.


Agree with this

I have no life and still cannot fathom spending at least 3 hours just on this game to START having a chance of getting a sunder in SINGLE PLAYER for god sakes

The devs are fuckkng cunts man
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Feb 28 2026 11:21am
i found one from a t2
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Feb 28 2026 11:36am
i found one from a t2


Online they drop from anything
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Feb 28 2026 11:40am
They can drop for tier 1-3 heralds, just at a low rate

The early datamine was wrong, there are multiple sunder TCs now or something weird


What’s weird is I’ve seen multiple folks say the t1-3 only applies online, not offline. Which if true is hopefully just a stupid mistake.
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Feb 28 2026 11:47am
okay so my info I based this post off was a llama vid where he said he thinks they shouldn't be locked to the rank 4/5 heralds. So I guess he could have been talking about offline and not online and I just assumed he meant overall.

That is cool if they do drop from rank 1 herals + because otherwise it would be exclusive to worldstone shard farming
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Feb 28 2026 12:49pm
What’s weird is I’ve seen multiple folks say the t1-3 only applies online, not offline. Which if true is hopefully just a stupid mistake.


okay so my info I based this post off was a llama vid where he said he thinks they shouldn't be locked to the rank 4/5 heralds. So I guess he could have been talking about offline and not online and I just assumed he meant overall.

That is cool if they do drop from rank 1 herals + because otherwise it would be exclusive to worldstone shard farming



This is the only source I've seen https://www.reddit.com/r/diablo2/s/9v2h8cMOd3

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there's been a more recent discovery. online and offline are actually the same and all tiers can drop a sunder, however:

tiers 1-3 do not drop from the typical sunder TC that has been used since TZs first came out. the grand charm has to roll unique for it to drop as sunder through the normal table. so the odds are extremely rare, very similar odds as what a gheeds fortune from something like pindleskin would be.

tiers 4-5 do drop from the sunder TC, and they have vastly better odds to drop a sunder. but its weighted against noDrop, which punishes solo players.
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