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Feb 26 2026 10:03am
got it. that makes sense. Im at 125fcr right now with insight, hellwarden, spirit, trang gloves and vmagi. feels very clean. Chaos is a breeze but i want my life higher by a mile and i was seeing consume as an option but i like the levitate option better so i dont have to keep consuming goatmen when it falls off due to low + skills.


Yeah you'd want to hit 20 demonic mastery with +skills (on your lowest swap, without bo, so it doesn't fall off) and then dump the rest consume
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20 echoing strike
20 mirrored blades
20 blade warp
1 sigil
1 hex siphon
1 each demon skill
enough demonic mastery to hit 20
rest consume

At 99 with bis gear you'd have leftover points, at which point you can dump them into some choice which is probably engorge for its synergy to hex siphon in case you ever actually bother using engorge too, but you could just do levitation mastery or bind demon or blood oath at that point I don't think any of them matter much.
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Feb 26 2026 10:09am
Yeah you'd want to hit 20 demonic mastery with +skills (on your lowest swap, without bo, so it doesn't fall off) and then dump the rest consume
ex
20 echoing strike
20 mirrored blades
20 blade warp
1 sigil
1 hex siphon
1 each demon skill
enough demonic mastery to hit 20
rest consume

At 99 with bis gear you'd have leftover points, at which point you can dump them into some choice which is probably engorge for its synergy to hex siphon in case you ever actually bother using engorge too, but you could just do levitation mastery or bind demon or blood oath at that point I don't think any of them matter much.


do you know what consume scales like? We are playing a beta basically where none of this info is published lol
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Feb 26 2026 10:16am
do you know what consume scales like? We are playing a beta basically where none of this info is published lol


Yes, it maxes out for tainted/defiler bonuses at level 11 or 13 soft points (I don't remember which) and gives +20% / -15% fire/magic damage and nothing above that
+1% max life and +20 seconds per point duration linear scaling
+% efrw using a diminishing returns formula, so probably similar to skills like increased speed on barb
+5% enhanced damage per point linear scaling uncapped when consuming a goatman, the one you care about on an echoing strikes build
I believe the crushing blow on consuming a goatman is equal to 5% + your hard points in deathmark, so 6% on any sane build
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Feb 26 2026 10:20am
Yes, it maxes out for tainted/defiler bonuses at level 11 or 13 soft points (I don't remember which) and gives +20% / -15% fire/magic damage and nothing above that
+1% max life and +20 seconds per point duration linear scaling
+% efrw using a diminishing returns formula, so probably similar to skills like increased speed on barb
+5% enhanced damage per point linear scaling uncapped when consuming a goatman, the one you care about on an echoing strikes build
I believe the crushing blow on consuming a goatman is equal to 5% + your hard points in deathmark, so 6% on any sane build


big help thanks man
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Feb 26 2026 10:23am
Yeah you'd want to hit 20 demonic mastery with +skills (on your lowest swap, without bo, so it doesn't fall off) and then dump the rest consume
ex
20 echoing strike
20 mirrored blades
20 blade warp
1 sigil
1 hex siphon
1 each demon skill
enough demonic mastery to hit 20
rest consume

At 99 with bis gear you'd have leftover points, at which point you can dump them into some choice which is probably engorge for its synergy to hex siphon in case you ever actually bother using engorge too, but you could just do levitation mastery or bind demon or blood oath at that point I don't think any of them matter much.


Only thing that might make sense to add is a few hard pts into bind demon. In end game gear you get +9-10skills from gear and +4 in charms so you hit lvl 15bind with 1-2 hard points. While gearing up of no charms it’s less. But lvl 10 bind for extra fast is a significant qol for spreading amp and tanking and idk the math but spectral hit at lvl 15 should be a big boost to your binds dps
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Feb 26 2026 10:25am
Tmaul set ups get a slight bump if you’re just chain farming tz tombs in p8 (+50% undead) but I agree big that it’s way over hyped. 4os eth tmauls are 3.5k fg atm, insane tbh


My fav weapon right now is insight in a eth Shillelagh. Same max dps as non eth cv but min dam is insane high and has essentially 0stat req. best paired with a meph book. Weapon swap into cta+ splendor with +3bind / consume for pre buff and save/exit game


I am selling 4s eth ogre maul for less. Pm me if interested. Ladder sc
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Feb 26 2026 10:26am
I am selling 4s eth ogre maul for less. Pm me if interested. Ladder sc


Nty I’m insight staff pilled
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Feb 26 2026 10:32am
Yes, it maxes out for tainted/defiler bonuses at level 11 or 13 soft points (I don't remember which) and gives +20% / -15% fire/magic damage and nothing above that
+1% max life and +20 seconds per point duration linear scaling
+% efrw using a diminishing returns formula, so probably similar to skills like increased speed on barb
+5% enhanced damage per point linear scaling uncapped when consuming a goatman, the one you care about on an echoing strikes build
I believe the crushing blow on consuming a goatman is equal to 5% + your hard points in deathmark, so 6% on any sane build


one other question. for 20 demon mastery, what would you run as your other demon if you consume the 1st goat?
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Feb 26 2026 10:46am
one other question. for 20 demon mastery, what would you run as your other demon if you consume the 1st goat?


1 point defiler is worth it, its just one extra prebuff button with a pretty decent impact
it helps very slightly with echoing strikes failing to hit every enemy in a big aoe like the other warlock builds do, and its nice when a defiler links some spread out mobs and a single echo strike kills all of them from touching any of them
since defiler damage DOES count incoming overkill damage AND is lethal in 1 hit, so 5 mobs with 10000 hp each taking 100000 damage will spread 50000 to the other links

Only thing that might make sense to add is a few hard pts into bind demon. In end game gear you get +9-10skills from gear and +4 in charms so you hit lvl 15bind with 1-2 hard points. While gearing up of no charms it’s less. But lvl 10 bind for extra fast is a significant qol for spreading amp and tanking and idk the math but spectral hit at lvl 15 should be a big boost to your binds dps


one thing worth pointing out is that while you can't lock in +bind skills swap gear for the base life/damage, you can lock in the aura
so if you just get +19 to bind demon with some minor swap gear you can go and farm a cursed mob (ismail as the easiest) and roll for holy freeze aura pretty trivially
whereas a sub 20 bind demon build has to annoyingly farm hephasto for curse + useful aura and that's a much longer teleport / much lower % chance to find
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Feb 26 2026 11:03am
1 point defiler is worth it, its just one extra prebuff button with a pretty decent impact
it helps very slightly with echoing strikes failing to hit every enemy in a big aoe like the other warlock builds do, and its nice when a defiler links some spread out mobs and a single echo strike kills all of them from touching any of them
since defiler damage DOES count incoming overkill damage AND is lethal in 1 hit, so 5 mobs with 10000 hp each taking 100000 damage will spread 50000 to the other links



one thing worth pointing out is that while you can't lock in +bind skills swap gear for the base life/damage, you can lock in the aura
so if you just get +19 to bind demon with some minor swap gear you can go and farm a cursed mob (ismail as the easiest) and roll for holy freeze aura pretty trivially
whereas a sub 20 bind demon build has to annoyingly farm hephasto for curse + useful aura and that's a much longer teleport / much lower % chance to find


i currently have a fanat curse faster spectral hephisto naturally. Gonna be sad when i have to respec. hes a boss.

life is too low and 20 into Hex: Purge is just dumb.
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