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broken likely. echoing strike you can only ever get 1 but its magic dmg, which cant really be resisted, and scales on both skill and dmg gear plus doesnt require rep on weapon. also has tele and basically decrepify curse. and a crushing blow summon on top of it.

the fire builds will be underwhelming due to mana use tho.
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broken likely. echoing strike you can only ever get 1 but its magic dmg, which cant really be resisted, and scales on both skill and dmg gear plus doesnt require rep on weapon. also has tele and basically decrepify curse. and a crushing blow summon on top of it.

the fire builds will be underwhelming due to mana use tho.


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mana scs and an insight swap might make fire work, but id still say it will be worse than an echo strike lock.

i havent done any pvp, so im not sure how lock's stuns are performing yet. like apoc specifically.

edit: now that i think of it echo would likely use insight anyways. fire = spirit im sure.

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mana scs and an insight swap might make fire work, but id still say it will be worse than an echo strike lock.

i havent done any pvp, so im not sure how lock's stuns are performing yet. like apoc specifically.

edit: now that i think of it echo would likely use insight anyways. fire = spirit im sure.


havent and dont plan on dueling w a lld lock but echoing would win

just did maxroll with basic gear rolls ike 2chaos/20fcr helm, 2chaos/3rof book, sojs viper mages etc 1 pointed the 3 to get blade warp, rest rof+synergies still leaves 1 extra point thats useless

damage comes out to 772-996

so add the 5% per yard + max range of rof(idk what it is, i think its probably 12 or so) and its still weaker than fireball i think lol

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mana scs and an insight swap might make fire work, but id still say it will be worse than an echo strike lock.

i havent done any pvp, so im not sure how lock's stuns are performing yet. like apoc specifically.

edit: now that i think of it echo would likely use insight anyways. fire = spirit im sure.


can't namelock anything with echoing, big issue
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havent and dont plan on dueling w a lld lock but echoing would win

just did maxroll with basic gear rolls ike 2chaos/20fcr helm, 2chaos/3rof book, sojs viper mages etc 1 pointed the 3 to get blade warp, rest rof+synergies still leaves 1 extra point thats useless

damage comes out to 772-996

so add the 5% per yard + max range of rof(idk what it is, i think its probably 12 or so) and its still weaker than fireball i think lol


Maybe ill make a tele stomp 4 goatman lethergy bm lock just to troll people. fire seems so op on a playthrough because it just melts acts 1-4, but it drops off quickly. apoc is ok, but not for farming, just a good team skill.
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didnt even mention abyss
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maxrolling non popular skills at the moment. demon skill tree doesnt work as intended or bugs or no idea what that is.
Didnt start to maxroll the popular skills, since they will be nerfed regardless.

There are few very cool things about warlock.
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