what was the behavior with the old sunders? did they change that?



all that doesnt replace 450% gf on a 6 lem weap tho. it would just be somethign you cast decrep quickly with and then swap over to gf weaps

Well I play my barb primarily as a single player mf char, so qol matters way more to me than gold per time or run. And I find higher fcr BP just way more fun to play especially if you run other areas apart from trav.

The annoying thing about either spellsteel and void is rather that you need to rebind your hotkey every new game since d2r apparently won't save them for charged base foreign skills.

This post was edited by kartoffelheinz on Feb 25 2026 12:01pm

Oh, that sounds interesting. And I just happen to have found an eth one today. Will check the math and try that maybe.

which option would be most optimal, given I already have the ebotd giant thresher. merc setup for trav only barb

ebotd giant thresher / gface / coh
ebotd giant thresher / gface / fortitude (prefer this since much cheaper atm with rune prices)
ebotd giant thresher / andys / fortitude

This post was edited by SkyQ8 on Feb 25 2026 11:58am

ebotd GT + cham GFace + CoH imo

they do save them if you don't log out with the skill equipped (which is pretty fucking funny), or at least it was like that for the first year or so



unsure, didn't fuck with spellsteel sunders; decrep lasts like 5 seconds and feels so shit to reapply everytime as you always have to swap away from the main set

if anything i'm pretty sure the reasonable alternative is primary set Beast/Void with Enigma or tele amulet
or
Grief/450% +Enigma/Tele gear and a 900% goldfind swap (or ali babas I guess)

I don't hate the idea of Beast + Void primary set if Sunders work at full capacity, but I'd need to fuck around with it.

This post was edited by Exokek on Feb 25 2026 12:11pm

alternatively, blizzard: can you please increase Amp Charges on Gavel to 12-15 charges?

thanks!

Checked the weapon speeds. Since I already have a Jewelers of the Lamprey with 2xED/IAS jewels, I'd have 90ias with the BoTD on my merc.

For GPA relevant Jab BPs are 63 and 105. Normal attack BP is 75.
For GT I'd get the 75 Jab BP AND the normal attack BP at 89.
For WP the 90ias will let me hit the 80BP for Jab and 70 for normal attack.

Feels kinda wasted jewels for GPA, doesn't it? What would you guys think?

I don't understand the issue. You have a GT or GPA?
I wouldn't use a GPA.

Well I have an eth GPA base, but did not intend to use it before CorruptBovine's post. I was going to decide between WP and GT originally.

Why would you not use a GPA?

This post was edited by kartoffelheinz on Feb 25 2026 01:30pm