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Feb 24 2026 04:38am
:rofl: Christianity makes magic claims for the unknown, ofc you would say that about Christianity any monkey can do that. (Thats why there were thousands of religions/gods invented). The hard part is to provide proof for those magical claims which you have been avoiding like a coward..

This is why threads like these exist to check your cult from spreading unsubstantiated claims. Do not pass go, do not collect $200 provide proof now or gtfo. Thanks.


as we have previously established you don't actually care about proof or justification when you said "Does it matter what the justification is? We got self determination, creativity and ability to do as we please. Why are you trying to fill in the gaps of our knowledge with this magical being called god? I don't get the obsession."

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107619089&f=119&p=682540199

the proof is in the form of any proof, philosophical argumentation. to ask for empirical evidence you must first have epistemic justification for empiricism, which you cannot account for but the Christian worldview perfectly accounts for. You borrow from the Christian worldview in an attempt to argue against it, the Christian worldview is the only worldview that can perfectly account for the possibility of knowledge and transcendental categories, the problem of the one and the many etc. You just laughing and not understanding how basic epistemology works and calling philosophy "magic" isn't an argument. to say something is "unknown" requires the possibility of knowledge which you have still not justified. I have previously pointed out that you suffer from the myth of neutrality, this is simply a fallacy. You think you are on neutral ground and others must "prove" Christianity to you, but it is actually the case that the possibility of knowledge itself requires the Christian worldview to be true and your worldview cannot account for the possibility of knowledge.


the positive case is crystalized in

x is the necessary precondition for y, y therefore x.

God is the necessary precondition for transcendentals, transcendentals exist therefore God exists.

since you are currently using Y to argue with me, you are implicitly proving X.

the negative case for any other worldview is the impossibility of the contrary which can be shown in further argumentation, which is why I ask for your worldview and justification or your worldview, to show how it makes the possibility of knowledge impossible.

this is how arguments work, how proof works, the methodology how we understand the world and instead of attempting to proceed your usual reply is posting facebook memes.
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Feb 24 2026 04:49am
:rofl: Christianity makes magic claims for the unknown, ofc you would say that about Christianity any monkey can do that. (Thats why there were thousands of religions/gods invented). The hard part is to provide proof for those magical claims which you have been avoiding like a coward..

This is why threads like these exist to check your cult from spreading unsubstantiated claims. Do not pass go, do not collect $200 provide proof now or gtfo. Thanks.


You claim magic created the universe in a "poof" out of nothing.

Sounds like God to me, (Christianity)

Keep going addone, Jesus is alive and waiting for you to come home. Seek him.
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Feb 24 2026 05:21am
And look here you are getting yours handed to you in this thread. Isn't it poetic?
Maybe you can set aside magical aspects of the bible and only use it as just a helpful book to draw some nuggets of wisdom but not be mired in the authenticity of its sources. Wouldn't that be progress?


'atheists say any advanced alien technology would be indistinguishable from magic.
but when talking about God it absolutely is mocked as magic.
its probably not very nice of me as i lack the grace of a good christian. i find 'atheists absolutely amusing. but one also is humbled 'atheism testimony is like a giant neon sign unmistakenly pointing right at scripture. at least in part 'atheism brought me my salvation i became a christian, blame the 'atheist
absolutely astounded by it all

This post was edited by TiStuff on Feb 24 2026 05:22am
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Feb 24 2026 05:48am
Yawn... Speculating on what I believe or don't believe is a feeble distraction from providing proof of your beliefs. Which is what this thread is about.
Wake me up when you have it.


Are you not speculating to what Christians believe? You believe that we believe in something that is different that what we know as the truth.


Regarding MAGIC:


For those concerned (Addone definitely is not) look at the definition of "Magic" and the definition of "Miracle".

Magic is also almost done as a spectacle for attention with no benefit or gain to anyone but the performer. Jesus performed miracles in private and told people not to tell anyone. You don't see that with magicians. And if he did it in public, everyone in attendance benefited from the miracle aside from Jesus. Jesus knew that He was going to be killed by these same people that He is spending time with and performing these miracles, yet he sought out no glory, no recognition.

Peter Pan, Santa Claus, these dudes aren't real and never were real. We (history) know Jesus walked the earth.



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Feb 24 2026 06:47am
Are you not speculating to what Christians believe? You believe that we believe in something that is different that what we know as the truth.


Regarding MAGIC:


For those concerned (Addone definitely is not) look at the definition of "Magic" and the definition of "Miracle".

Magic is also almost done as a spectacle for attention with no benefit or gain to anyone but the performer. Jesus performed miracles in private and told people not to tell anyone. You don't see that with magicians. And if he did it in public, everyone in attendance benefited from the miracle aside from Jesus. Jesus knew that He was going to be killed by these same people that He is spending time with and performing these miracles, yet he sought out no glory, no recognition.

Peter Pan, Santa Claus, these dudes aren't real and never were real. We (history) know Jesus walked the earth.


Yes.

addone just can't use the proper terminology that Jesus teaches because it won't fit his narrative that he feeds into his Ai bot.

The history of scripture is amazing.
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Feb 24 2026 01:23pm
Are you not speculating to what Christians believe? You believe that we believe in something that is different that what we know as the truth.


Regarding MAGIC:


For those concerned (Addone definitely is not) look at the definition of "Magic" and the definition of "Miracle".

Magic is also almost done as a spectacle for attention with no benefit or gain to anyone but the performer. Jesus performed miracles in private and told people not to tell anyone. You don't see that with magicians. And if he did it in public, everyone in attendance benefited from the miracle aside from Jesus. Jesus knew that He was going to be killed by these same people that He is spending time with and performing these miracles, yet he sought out no glory, no recognition.

Peter Pan, Santa Claus, these dudes aren't real and never were real. We (history) know Jesus walked the earth.


When/where did I say that christians believe in spectacles or magic tricks for personal gain? You are intentionally trying to misconstrue.
I use the word "magic" to mean an umbrella term for supernatural, miracles, special powers etc.

magic
1 of 3
noun
mag·​ic ˈma-jik
Synonyms of magic
1
a
: the use of means (such as charms or spells) believed to have supernatural power over natural forces
b
: magic rites or incantations
2
a
: an extraordinary power or influence seemingly from a supernatural source
Both pitchers, although they are older, haven't lost their magic.
b
: something that seems to cast a spell : enchantment
… all the mystery, magic and romance which belong to royalty alone.
—J. E. P. Grigg
3
: the art of producing illusions by sleight of hand

You saying Peter Pan and Santa not real but jesus is real without proof. If thats all it takes for you to dismiss other magical beings then jesus can be discarded by the same methodology. He is not real and never was. There I proved his non existence in the same manner as you. Checkmate
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Feb 24 2026 06:01pm
as we have previously established you don't actually care about proof or justification when you said "Does it matter what the justification is? We got self determination, creativity and ability to do as we please. Why are you trying to fill in the gaps of our knowledge with this magical being called god? I don't get the obsession."

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107619089&f=119&p=682540199

the proof is in the form of any proof, philosophical argumentation. to ask for empirical evidence you must first have epistemic justification for empiricism, which you cannot account for but the Christian worldview perfectly accounts for. You borrow from the Christian worldview in an attempt to argue against it, the Christian worldview is the only worldview that can perfectly account for the possibility of knowledge and transcendental categories, the problem of the one and the many etc. You just laughing and not understanding how basic epistemology works and calling philosophy "magic" isn't an argument. to say something is "unknown" requires the possibility of knowledge which you have still not justified. I have previously pointed out that you suffer from the myth of neutrality, this is simply a fallacy. You think you are on neutral ground and others must "prove" Christianity to you, but it is actually the case that the possibility of knowledge itself requires the Christian worldview to be true and your worldview cannot account for the possibility of knowledge.


the positive case is crystalized in

x is the necessary precondition for y, y therefore x.

God is the necessary precondition for transcendentals, transcendentals exist therefore God exists.

since you are currently using Y to argue with me, you are implicitly proving X.

the negative case for any other worldview is the impossibility of the contrary which can be shown in further argumentation, which is why I ask for your worldview and justification or your worldview, to show how it makes the possibility of knowledge impossible.

this is how arguments work, how proof works, the methodology how we understand the world and instead of attempting to proceed your usual reply is posting facebook memes.


Is this what you tell a cop when he asks you for some ID?
You know exactly what is being asked yet you throw this philosophical bullshit in my face. If I was a cop and heard you being a smart Alec I would 100% tase you.

You were told exactly the type of proof required or would be acceptable and here being a smart-ass.

It's clear you have nothing and these are just petty attempts to deflect.
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Feb 24 2026 06:16pm
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Is this what you tell a cop when he asks you for some ID?
You know exactly what is being asked yet you throw this philosophical bullshit in my face. If I was a cop and heard you being a smart Alec I would 100% tase you.

You were told exactly the type of proof required or would be acceptable and here being a smart-ass.

It's clear you have nothing and these are just petty attempts to deflect.


actual chimpout behavior, incapable of debate so you say "if i could i'd tase you right now". i’ve provided the transcendental proof for the Christian worldview and you’ve provided 'so what' and a low iq tantrum

ironic since you called me the monkey earlier and your response when completely defeated philosophically is to result to imaginary violence. pathetic and low tier
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107619089&f=119&p=683342396
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Feb 24 2026 07:26pm
actual chimpout behavior, incapable of debate so you say "if i could i'd tase you right now". i’ve provided the transcendental proof for the Christian worldview and you’ve provided 'so what' and a low iq tantrum

ironic since you called me the monkey earlier and your response when completely defeated philosophically is to result to imaginary violence. pathetic and low tier
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107619089&f=119&p=683342396


You are avoiding to produce proof trying to derail the conversation into some philosophical sidequest. If a cop stops you on the side of the road you produce the ID no debating. Otherwise you getting tasted for not complying. You were given very specific request with very clear instructions either you have it or not.

You clearly trolling because an honest person would of long ago provided the proof or conceded. Not entertaining this bad mannered behavior.
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Feb 24 2026 07:43pm
I am so thankful for my savior jesus christ.

Who died for my sins and showed me the light.
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