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#11
Feb 24 2026 01:11am
Quote (Dolphy @ Feb 24 2026 02:06am)
it's hyperbole

played a lot of hc and only time I ripped was on a budget melee sorc lvl 90. it's a skill issue


I don’t believe you. Every Hc char dies eventually. It’s all about pushing that death as far away as possible. This is known.

Especially with your perspective - death is inevitable. How can you survive vs conv souls without stacked res my guy?

People who play hc for a long time usually can’t go back to SC pvm unless there are irl restraints. There’s just no stakes in it.

I’m just saying HC needs a place here to discuss. Saying things like that in a Hc forum would have you seen as not understanding Hc.
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Feb 24 2026 01:12am
Quote (Silenkiller @ Feb 24 2026 02:09am)
That guy is talking out his rear end. Even the best players can have a bad teleport eventually or a lag spike and end up in the wrong place.


Your right. Why am I feeding the trolls. Thanks for reminder.
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Feb 24 2026 01:12am
Quote (BishopHc @ Feb 24 2026 02:11am)
I don’t believe you. Every Hc char dies eventually. It’s all about pushing that death as far away as possible. This is known.

Especially with your perspective - death is inevitable. How can you survive vs conv souls without stacked res my guy?

People who play hc for a long time usually can’t go back to SC pvm unless there are irl restraints. There’s just no stakes in it.

I’m just saying HC needs a place here to discuss. Saying things like that in a Hc forum would have you seen as not understanding Hc.


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Feb 24 2026 01:14am
Quote (Silenkiller @ Feb 20 2026 08:12am)
Real builds should meet the following:

1. Max Resis
2. Min 75 FCR
3. No need for potion usage
4. Min 1.5k Life w/o B/O
5. Some amount of FHR
6. Doable by level 85-90
7. Not showcased by GG godly items made in hero editor

All these builds using hero editor impossible to obtain items, having negative resis in hell are just dumb asf.
"Hurrdurr 2/20/35@res 2os circlet that doesnt even exist yet makes my build BISSSSSS while my ig resis are red"

Ty


I'm with you. Glad my build covers most bases besides all the high damage. Still slaps P8.
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Feb 24 2026 12:02pm
The arguments validity is entirely based on "what are you trying to accomplish". If pure survivability is the goal - sure, have at it with stacked res and absorb. Near invincibility is a valid path. Where it both loses its weight and falls apart is if the goal is clear speed, and what min/max playstyle you seek.

HC fosters survivability above all - obviously.

MF will sacrifice survivability for "loot chance percentage"

DPS focused builds want optimal speed and damage to melt mobs in specific areas and routes.

Essentially you've got the same problem that any car enthusiast has "I want a cheap, fast and reliable car"
Reality is, the balance of the game is that you can never pick more than two

Paladins as an example;
Cheap and Reliable? Smiter
Fast and Reliable? Foh
Cheap and Fast? Tele Hdin

But you can cheese any of those builds into a "pick two" category.

There is only one single cheap, fast and reliable build in the game;
Vita Tals FB Sorc period
(Last sentence is rage bait obv. Or is it....?)

This post was edited by Moinky on Feb 24 2026 12:09pm
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Feb 24 2026 03:37pm
Quote (Silenkiller @ 20 Feb 2026 17:12)
Real builds should meet the following:

1. Max Resis
2. Min 75 FCR
3. No need for potion usage
4. Min 1.5k Life w/o B/O
5. Some amount of FHR
6. Doable by level 85-90
7. Not showcased by GG godly items made in hero editor

All these builds using hero editor impossible to obtain items, having negative resis in hell are just dumb asf.
"Hurrdurr 2/20/35@res 2os circlet that doesnt even exist yet makes my build BISSSSSS while my ig resis are red"

Ty


so essentially you're saying you want the steps made towards that build added? I 100% agree a good build guide should have that, but the goal is the good gear
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#17
Feb 24 2026 04:16pm
I'm running up'd Buriza mirror blades build with a Tal helm and cleglaw gloves and that's pretty much all you need if you are ok at staying out of the way of elemental casts. You can Max blood oath also to make up for a lot of resistances.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Feb 24 2026 04:16pm
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#18
Mar 18 2026 03:11am
Quote (Moinky @ Feb 25 2026 02:02am)
The arguments validity is entirely based on "what are you trying to accomplish". If pure survivability is the goal - sure, have at it with stacked res and absorb. Near invincibility is a valid path. Where it both loses its weight and falls apart is if the goal is clear speed, and what min/max playstyle you seek.

HC fosters survivability above all - obviously.

MF will sacrifice survivability for "loot chance percentage"

DPS focused builds want optimal speed and damage to melt mobs in specific areas and routes.

Essentially you've got the same problem that any car enthusiast has "I want a cheap, fast and reliable car"
Reality is, the balance of the game is that you can never pick more than two

Paladins as an example;
Cheap and Reliable? Smiter
Fast and Reliable? Foh
Cheap and Fast? Tele Hdin

But you can cheese any of those builds into a "pick two" category.

There is only one single cheap, fast and reliable build in the game;
Vita Tals FB Sorc period
(Last sentence is rage bait obv. Or is it....?)


if you r reach , Foh+ hammerdin hybrid is cheap fast and reliable
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