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Feb 23 2026 06:33pm
  • S Tier: Spear Rogue (TZ > Matron > Reg)
  • A Tier: Urdar > Minion of Destruction > Vile Mother


Does it not matter which minion of destruction you get, as in you don't need to get Lister? They are the same strength when bound?
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I do see some issues with the tankiness of tamed spear rogue.

It died while i try to kill p8 cow herald…(probably my fault to have her life lowered to the absolute bottom from blood boil nonetheless hepastos/lister never died on me all the while i was still lazy on engorge)

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What about grotesque? They summon 5 more spawns too
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What about grotesque? They summon 5 more spawns too


Yeah they are Vile Mothers
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Feb 24 2026 11:35am
  • S Tier: Spear Rogue (TZ > Matron > Reg)
  • A Tier: Urdar > Minion of Destruction > Vile Mother
  • B Tier: Goatman > Hephasto > Smith > Axe Rogue > Hell Buzzard
  • C Tier: Council > Balrog / Overseer / Putrid Defiler / Tainted > Flayer
  • F Tier: Fallen/Fetish Shaman > Siren > Fetish / Archer Rogue > Demon Imp > Succubi
  • Platinum SSS Hidden Tier: Pain Worm / Vile Child upgraded to unique via monster shrine so it has cursed


Rankings are only for true pokemon trainers not 1 pointer echoing strike builds that just need aura.
When you've got high blood oath the HP/damage difference on Hephasto and a Goatman is mostly irrelevant, they are both unkillable and 95% dps comes from the skill, but A5 tundra goats run 50% faster
If you just need a lowbie aura bot then the base HP really does matter and you can go grind river of flame every time you die, you take that long walk of shame
Rogues with shields have blocking but that makes them worse because they have an animation that interrupts them, better to just take damage.
Any monster that uses an ability that does nothing or has a defensive AI is wasting time not attacking. At least Vile Mothers bring a permanent set of meat shields with them, unlike Shamans
All ranged attacks are totally worthless.


How is pure demon/summon warlock feeling? How’s the damage and clear speed? Is the minion AI fine?
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Feb 24 2026 11:49am


Thats mine i got in darkwood no jab i know but still good until i get full gear. Got Lucky she turned fanatism
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What about grotesque? They summon 5 more spawns too


Problem i foud with them is the minions they spit do almost no damage even on cursed monsters.
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Feb 24 2026 12:01pm
https://i.imgur.com/GhqABv9.jpeg

Thats mine i got in darkwood no jab i know but still good until i get full gear. Got Lucky she turned fanatism


this is better then lister or hephasto?

was she unique? or just a random white mob?

This post was edited by num2007 on Feb 24 2026 12:02pm
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this is better then lister or hephasto?

was she unique? or just a random white mob?


She was unique, they are agressive and she use ligthning strike with 20% chance of poison the target. Their Ai is really good so far its my favorite vs Urdar and Lister.

Ps: also spear range is great.

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Feb 24 2026 12:19pm
https://i.imgur.com/GhqABv9.jpeg

Thats mine i got in darkwood no jab i know but still good until i get full gear. Got Lucky she turned fanatism


That’s not lucky, that’s unlucky

Wrong aura
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