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Feb 20 2026 10:42pm
Why would people put all these things on the ocean floor, do you think there is some great conspiracy?

Here is proof tanks used to drive on the bottom of the sea

https://imgur.com/W1tRSvu.jpeg

Here is proof of a sea civilization, why would people drive cars underwater CPK001?? Clearly mermaids and Aquaman is real

https://imgur.com/z5xoSN3.jpeg


your really losing it addone
Ofc if it wasn't abundantly obvious. But let me clarify before you do your Motte and Bailey fallacy on me again. I am only criticizing the magic bullshit.
Christians love making a controversial statement that involves magic and when they have to defend it they retreat into a non controversial aspect.

For example you claim there is heaven, hell, magic garden of eden etc but you don't give any proof of that you retreat into Sodom and Gomorrah. No one cares about Sodom and Gomorrah no one asked to prove something thats non controversial. If those cities existed then so what? There were lots of cities around the world that were destroyed and now lost. I guess its cool if you are a history buff you might find it interesting but it doesn't give a single iota of proof magic is real.

Which part of "fiction writers often use real world places in their non real story" dont you understand?


so now there is evidence of sodom and gomorrah so now sodom and gomorrah doesnt count as evidence. we see how it works evidence isnt evidence.
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Feb 20 2026 11:09pm
your really losing it addone

so now there is evidence of sodom and gomorrah so now sodom and gomorrah doesnt count as evidence. we see how it works evidence isnt evidence.


When christians apply corals = chariots under sea therefore our magic god did it and is considered evidence.
When I apply same logic to car tires = you are losing it/unhinged (adhominems) not considered evidence.

Motte and Bailey fallacy Tistuff when you make outrageous controversial claims such as heaven, hell, magic garden exists which I am asking for proof of, you instead retreat to an easier to defend position. To non magical non controversial things that I never questioned in the first place such as Sodom and Gomorrah.

You proving Sodom and Gomorrah are real doesnt make magic garden of eden real these are two entirely different places.
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Feb 20 2026 11:44pm
When christians apply corals = chariots under sea therefore our magic god did it and is considered evidence.
When I apply same logic to car tires = you are losing it/unhinged (adhominems) not considered evidence.

Motte and Bailey fallacy Tistuff when you make outrageous controversial claims such as heaven, hell, magic garden exists which I am asking for proof of, you instead retreat to an easier to defend position. To non magical non controversial things that I never questioned in the first place such as Sodom and Gomorrah.

You proving Sodom and Gomorrah are real doesnt make magic garden of eden real these are two entirely different places.


since you donrt actually look into things.
in those videos or some of those videos they they found coral designs that didnt look normal (looked in the design of structure). pictures were taken and local egyptian historian were asked what he thought about them. the historian said the design matched the chariot wheel design of the time inquired
its evidence because it backs up the biblical narrative.
and when you cant even accept even the littlest bit of evidence. making excuses for literally everything. thats some kind of weird problem you have and i consider that even more evidence of my belief.

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You proving Sodom and Gomorrah are real doesnt make magic garden of eden real these are two entirely different places.

its evidence of the biblical narrative and therefore evidence of the garden of eden? (its evidence that scripture is reliable) its just evidence though. it doesnt necessarily "prove"(proof) a claim.

go take the underwater tires and the underwater other stuff to a historian .........
while your at it tell him
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Why would people put all these things on the ocean floor, do you think there is some great conspiracy?

Here is proof tanks used to drive on the bottom of the sea

https://imgur.com/W1tRSvu.jpeg

Here is proof of a sea civilization, why would people drive cars underwater CPK001?? Clearly mermaids and Aquaman is real

https://imgur.com/z5xoSN3.jpeg


also....... sometimes people use the word proof interchangeably with evidence. i dont think its right and can cause confusion. its just the way it is

This post was edited by TiStuff on Feb 20 2026 11:54pm
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Feb 21 2026 12:10am
since you donrt actually look into things.
in those videos or some of those videos they they found coral designs that didnt look normal (looked in the design of structure). pictures were taken and local egyptian historian were asked what he thought about them. the historian said the design matched the chariot wheel design of the time inquired
its evidence because it backs up the biblical narrative.
and when you cant even accept even the littlest bit of evidence. making excuses for literally everything. thats some kind of weird problem you have and i consider that even more evidence of my belief.


its evidence of the biblical narrative and therefore evidence of the garden of eden? (its evidence that scripture is reliable) its just evidence though. it doesnt necessarily "prove"(proof) a claim.

go take the underwater tires and the underwater other stuff to a historian .........
while your at it tell him


I even said granted they were chariot wheels doesn't explain magic or how they got there. Wood floats just because you find a wooden wheel on the sea floor doesn't automatically mean it was because magic story.
Hence why I tested the exact same logic with a car wheel but you began crying when the roles are reversed.

Already told you fiction books use real world places or events as a backdrop to their fake story. Bible proving Sodom and Gomorrah real doesn't give it more credibility just like Empire State Building doesn't prove King Kong is real or more credible.

So you can take your projections and cope somewhere else.
(Why do I even bother explaining these basic concepts you think bible is true because the bible told you its true lmao)
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Feb 21 2026 01:59am
Ofc if it wasn't abundantly obvious. But let me clarify before you do your Motte and Bailey fallacy on me again. I am only criticizing the magic bullshit.
Christians love making a controversial statement that involves magic and when they have to defend it they retreat into a non controversial aspect.

For example you claim there is heaven, hell, magic garden of eden etc but you don't give any proof of that you retreat into Sodom and Gomorrah. No one cares about Sodom and Gomorrah no one asked to prove something thats non controversial. If those cities existed then so what? There were lots of cities around the world that were destroyed and now lost. I guess its cool if you are a history buff you might find it interesting but it doesn't give a single iota of proof magic is real.

Which part of "fiction writers often use real world places in their non real story" dont you understand?


It seemed to me that you were disregarding every single word written down. So now you're saying that parts of the Bible could be true as they're based on real world places.

You need to understand the concept of a God. You are creating God in your own image and putting limitations on the one who created the world with his Word.

Why not listen to what God says about his capabilities?

Jeremiah 32:27 ESV

27 “Behold, I am the Lord, the God of all flesh. Is anything too hard for me?

Hebrews 1:1-2 ESV

1 Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world.

I am going to have to dumb this down to a level that even you can understand. Can you watch a 90 second vod?

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Feb 21 2026 02:16am
I even said granted they were chariot wheels doesn't explain magic or how they got there. Wood floats just because you find a wooden wheel on the sea floor doesn't automatically mean it was because magic story.
Hence why I tested the exact same logic with a car wheel but you began crying when the roles are reversed.

Already told you fiction books use real world places or events as a backdrop to their fake story. Bible proving Sodom and Gomorrah real doesn't give it more credibility just like Empire State Building doesn't prove King Kong is real or more credible.

So you can take your projections and cope somewhere else.
(Why do I even bother explaining these basic concepts you think bible is true because the bible told you its true lmao)


ancient documents said chariots were in a certain area and were destroyed and thats were ancient chariot wheel coral configuration was found. a specific item in a specific place.
so yea its evidence.
dont know how finding random garbage in some random place challenges anything?

and non fiction books use real world places as a back drop to a real story. so we are supposed to let addone decide which is which?

nobody argues king kong is real

i believe the bible is true because i tested its word and it held up. i trust it more than anything in this con job rip off covid kook world

if a place mentioned in the bible cant be found it means the bible is fake
if a place mentioned in the bible has been found it meaans the bible is fake :blink:

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Feb 21 2026 04:54am
ancient documents said chariots were in a certain area and were destroyed and thats were ancient chariot wheel coral configuration was found. a specific item in a specific place.
so yea its evidence.
dont know how finding random garbage in some random place challenges anything?

and non fiction books use real world places as a back drop to a real story. so we are supposed to let addone decide which is which?

nobody argues king kong is real

i believe the bible is true because i tested its word and it held up. i trust it more than anything in this con job rip off covid kook world

if a place mentioned in the bible cant be found it means the bible is fake
if a place mentioned in the bible has been found it meaans the bible is fake :blink:


Lol the amount of misrepresentation in this one post is off the charts.

If a place (that is magical) mentioned in the bible cant be found the bible is fake.
Just because a non magical place is found in the bible doesn't prove the magical one exists. Nobody argues non magical places. You still can't grasp this elementary concept.

People don't argue king Kong is real because he a work of fiction it was just an example. But people argue for magic gods of various kinds who use real life locations on earth. And there are thousands of them.

You believe the bible is true because you were groomed to believe it. If someone offered you the Quran or Bhagavad Gita or Scientology you would be lapping it right now and finding ways to prove them right. You told me you were a junkie/alcoholic who just substituted one fix for another.
Once you picked your crutch you drank the kool-aid and now you cant see straight. .

The corals that christians want to believe are wheels is a known debunked hoax
They are naturally formed corals and partial shipwreck debree from 19th century

After 2000 years of no return of your fake jesus you have grown rather desperate that you will believe just about anything. Here is your fake wheels story educate yourself.

https://biblearchaeologyreport.com/2018/10/11/fake-news-in-biblical-archaeology/

https://scholarlydiagnostic.us/debunking-the-myth-chariot-wheels-found-in-the-red-sea/

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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Lol the amount of misrepresentation in this one post is off the charts.

If a place (that is magical) mentioned in the bible cant be found the bible is fake.
Just because a non magical place is found in the bible doesn't prove the magical one exists. Nobody argues non magical places. You still can't grasp this elementary concept.

People don't argue king Kong is real because he a work of fiction it was just an example. But people argue for magic gods of various kinds who use real life locations on earth. And there are thousands of them.

You believe the bible is true because you were groomed to believe it. If someone offered you the Quran or Bhagavad Gita or Scientology you would be lapping it right now and finding ways to prove them right. You told me you were a junkie/alcoholic who just substituted one fix for another.
Once you picked your crutch you drank the kool-aid and now you cant see straight. .

The corals that christians want to believe are wheels is a known debunked hoax
They are naturally formed corals and partial shipwreck debree from 19th century



After 2000 years of no return of your fake jesus you have grown rather desperate that you will believe just about anything. Here is your fake wheels story educate yourself.

https://biblearchaeologyreport.com/2018/10/11/fake-news-in-biblical-archaeology/

https://scholarlydiagnostic.us/debunking-the-myth-chariot-wheels-found-in-the-red-sea/

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


what magical place in the bible?

we agree on king kong

look up genetic fallacy
i spent first 50 years of my life indifferent to religion. maybe i was groomed to be indifferent?
one fix for another i just magically became clean.

people believe they are chariot of the era because some historian said they were a match.

making fun of Jesus coming was prophesized. "atheist makes my faith grow once again
2 Peter 3:4
In the King James Version (KJV) of the Bible, 2 Peter 3:4 states: "And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation." This verse reflects the belief that God's promise regarding His return has been delayed, and the world remains unchanged since the time of the fathers. The apostle Peter emphasizes the importance of remaining steadfast in faith, as the end times approach.

maybe i look at your stuff later even though you never look ant anybody elses stuff
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Feb 21 2026 12:37pm
what magical place in the bible?

we agree on king kong

look up genetic fallacy
i spent first 50 years of my life indifferent to religion. maybe i was groomed to be indifferent?
one fix for another i just magically became clean.

people believe they are chariot of the era because some historian said they were a match.

making fun of Jesus coming was prophesized. "atheist makes my faith grow once again
2 Peter 3:4
In the King James Version (KJV) of the Bible, 2 Peter 3:4 states: "And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation." This verse reflects the belief that God's promise regarding His return has been delayed, and the world remains unchanged since the time of the fathers. The apostle Peter emphasizes the importance of remaining steadfast in faith, as the end times approach.

maybe i look at your stuff later even though you never look ant anybody elses stuff


I reviewed that video about chariot wheels and posted the direct counter evidence. It is a known fake they got you Tistuff. You fell for one of the oldest tricks in the book.
The entire thing was made to inject hopium into Christians who have been waiting for jesus over 2000 years.

It is essentially as bad as falling for the Nigerian prince email scams. The is a reason why these scams are still around with thousands of different gods and hundreds of religions. People like you still keep falling for them.
Using magic explanations is escapism. You didn't magically get cured your fix never went away you just replaced it with religion. Instead of getting intoxicated with alcohol you intoxicated your mind with bed time stories.

Also stopping drinking requires a change in your desires. To decide to not pick it up is simply not acting on your imulses. Nothing magical about that.
For example I decided not to play video games all day and instead go to work and do things outside. Using our ability to change our mind is like a muscle for some people it is very weak they don't even realize they have the ability to just walk away from bad habits.
Some people do it without much effort.
Stop using religion as a crutch on your own ability to self determine. It might be difficult at first but over time and practice it becomes like your second nature. Thats how you graduate from being an NPC to being main character. No god required
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Feb 21 2026 06:36pm
I reviewed that video about chariot wheels and posted the direct counter evidence. It is a known fake they got you Tistuff. You fell for one of the oldest tricks in the book.
The entire thing was made to inject hopium into Christians who have been waiting for jesus over 2000 years.

It is essentially as bad as falling for the Nigerian prince email scams. The is a reason why these scams are still around with thousands of different gods and hundreds of religions. People like you still keep falling for them.
Using magic explanations is escapism. You didn't magically get cured your fix never went away you just replaced it with religion. Instead of getting intoxicated with alcohol you intoxicated your mind with bed time stories.

Also stopping drinking requires a change in your desires. To decide to not pick it up is simply not acting on your imulses. Nothing magical about that.
For example I decided not to play video games all day and instead go to work and do things outside. Using our ability to change our mind is like a muscle for some people it is very weak they don't even realize they have the ability to just walk away from bad habits.
Some people do it without much effort.
Stop using religion as a crutch on your own ability to self determine. It might be difficult at first but over time and practice it becomes like your second nature. Thats how you graduate from being an NPC to being main character. No god required


I'll keep my faith in Jesus.

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