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Feb 18 2026 06:55am
must be same game.
so use those world stone shards. act 1 and 2 are the "best" ones to use as they are the stones needed for the SHITTIER sunders of poison and cold (to turn them into renewal versions) so you dont need to hoard the other 3 (which will be used for lightning, and then the desired physical and magic ones).

i currently try not to spend my act 3, 4 and 5 stones unless i ABSOLUTELY need to.


Source about acts determining which sunders drop? Never heard this before. Maybe I missed it in this thread.
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Feb 18 2026 06:59am
Source about acts determining which sunders drop? Never heard this before. Maybe I missed it in this thread.


no thats the cube formula to turn them into RENEWAL versions. The latent sunders require specific stones in their crafting recipe

Just google the formulas and ull see act 1 and act 2 stones end up being for the shittier less desired sunder charm recipes, so naturally you want to use those ones up first when needing to make 1x act fully TZ'd. Also act 2 has tal tombs which is GG for monster spawning and LUCKILY act 2 stone isnt used for the better sunders (lightning, physical and magic)
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no thats the cube formula to turn them into RENEWAL versions. The latent sunders require specific stones in their crafting recipe

Just google the formulas and ull see act 1 and act 2 stones end up being for the shittier less desired sunder charm recipes, so naturally you want to use those ones up first when needing to make 1x act fully TZ'd. Also act 2 has tal tombs which is GG for monster spawning and LUCKILY act 2 stone isnt used for the better sunders (lightning, physical and magic)


Oh I see what you mean now.
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Feb 18 2026 07:32am
just farm old sunder in d2r lod and then convert char to rotw ?

this doesnt work right? right? :D
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Feb 18 2026 07:37am
just farm old sunder in d2r lod and then convert char to rotw ?

this doesnt work right? right? :D


yes that currently works. But u cant turn them into renewal sunders with the extra affixes because it wasnt a "latent" model. Though most smart people would figure, just get a D2R expansion cold sunder to get their blizz sorc and convert it to ROTW (assuming their isnt a separate ladder realm that prevents d2r expansion from converting to rotw...) so thats the one unknown variable until people can test it on the 20th on the ladder launch to confirm. A simple create a lvl 1 expansion char and see if u can immediately ROTW convert and we will all know the answer on friday lol
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Feb 18 2026 08:10am
must be same game.
so use those world stone shards. act 1 and 2 are the "best" ones to use as they are the stones needed for the SHITTIER sunders of poison and cold (to turn them into renewal versions) so you dont need to hoard the other 3 (which will be used for lightning, and then the desired physical and magic ones).

i currently try not to spend my act 3, 4 and 5 stones unless i ABSOLUTELY need to.

Here is my tip to use for farming sunders that im currently using. Had a doodoo cold one drop earlier but just a matter of time and effort for the other ones.

Requires you do some clock management to maximize the amounts of "free" heralds.

TZ timers will end at xx:00 or xx:30 for your real world timer ... so use those 30 minutes to ur advantage.
I will just farm whatever (usually keys right now for more torches, which also have dog shit drop rates atm LOL).

Then when its around xx:25 (this means 5 mins left before current TZ resets). I use this time to go hunt for a herald at the current TZ spot. I spawn him, then now im lvl 1 tier. Now i wait till current TZ ends, then once the new one starts, ill go straight to the next TZ and "try" to get a herald. IF NO HERALD, ill abandon the plan and just go back to key farming (so im not spending one of my act 1 or act 2 world shards).

NOW ... if i happen to successfully immediately get that 2nd herald on the freshly changed TZ timer ... NOW ill go ahead and spend 1 of my act 1 or act 2 world shards to fully terrorize ONE of the acts. Now that an act is fully TZ'd, now i just go and spam find the heralds... hit my max lvl tier and then just continue farming the whole game. If i end up clearing that specific act, ill move to the next one (so if i started with act 1, ill use my act 2 stone). From there keep farming, then get lucky wit a sunder hopefully... then make a new game (im not sure if a 2nd sunder can drop after 1 drops in that current game. Might be using same rules like uniques where once one drops, u cannot get a repeat same uniq to drop). I didnt over spend my time testing beyond finding the 2x acts as to not waste my valueable act3/4/5 stones IF that unique factor is indeed true... although each unique sunder might be in its own category since its listed in the chronicle


Why not use ur shards akt 3 4 5?
U just need one to upgrade ur sunder.
How much sunder u drop with ur "strategie"?
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Feb 18 2026 08:16am
P1 solo: ~1:238
P8 solo: ~1:60
P8 with 3 in same area: ~1:48

Interesting that not only is players 8 best, but it also calculates the characters in your “area!”
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Feb 18 2026 08:17am
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1. Old Sunders No Longer Drop in ROTW
The previous “regular” Sunder Charms no longer drop. In the game files, the old Sunder entries were replaced in the treasure class tables.


Are the old sunders in the d2r drop table still or are they completely removed from the game for ladder (or non-ladder)?
Cant read, looks like everyone is on the same page you still should be able to assuming its still in the d2r tables

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Feb 18 2026 09:02am
Why not use ur shards akt 3 4 5?
U just need one to upgrade ur sunder.
How much sunder u drop with ur "strategie"?


cause theres RNG involved once u upgrade the sunder. affixes arent fixed.
so u kinda need to do quite a bit of rolls (so multiple sunder charms) to get one that u kinda like.
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Feb 18 2026 09:04am
Apologies if this was answered already but...

Can I sit in the same game and just run the TZs throughout the day to let the Heralds "stack?"

Or Does each act have a new counter for the Heralds?
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