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Feb 16 2026 10:10pm
why would google know? yes, you can, but the sunder TC still has the restriction that hork can't ignore its noDrop, so the odds are the same as if you killed it, not whatever the hork tooltip says


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could just be rng but almost seems like chance to spawn herald goes down the more you spawn in a row
i hit 10 in 2 acts, 13, 3 acts and then the next two acts only hit 2 for a total of 15
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Perfect thanks!! :hug:

And yeah.. Google is trash :wallbash:


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ok so just play on non-RotW ladder and farm non-nerfed sunders and transfer to rotw with level 1 mules? (or sell to rotw players if you dont known rotw yourself)

i dont think even blizzard is dumb enough to leave a loophole like this in the game. maybe im wrong though (they charged 25$ for a shit class 4 years after release and you guys all bought it like chuds)

they will either increase the rotw terror zone sunder drop rate or non-rotw ladder chars will eat good lol


0 chance lod -> rotw will be allowed on ladder
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Feb 17 2026 04:10am
6. Tier 4+ AND “Elite Herald” Required for Latent Sunders
This is the critical part as game file condition clearly states : cond('MonsterTestElite', herald) * (stat('heraldtier'.accr) > 3)

Meaning:
The Herald must qualify as an Elite Herald (proably name Herald of Terror)
AND the internal heraldtier must be > 3 (Tier 4+)


idk about this. 2nd herald just dropped sunder for me....
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Feb 17 2026 04:11am
6. Tier 4+ AND “Elite Herald” Required for Latent Sunders
This is the critical part as game file condition clearly states : cond('MonsterTestElite', herald) * (stat('heraldtier'.accr) > 3)

Meaning:
The Herald must qualify as an Elite Herald (proably name Herald of Terror)
AND the internal heraldtier must be > 3 (Tier 4+)


idk about this. 2nd herald just dropped sunder for me....


i'm seeing a lot of people say that online any herald can drop a sunder. they might have changed it for online already given people complaining about how rare they are now. but in offline, its t4+ still.
i have yet to see proof of it though
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Feb 17 2026 04:11am
6. Tier 4+ AND “Elite Herald” Required for Latent Sunders
This is the critical part as game file condition clearly states : cond('MonsterTestElite', herald) * (stat('heraldtier'.accr) > 3)

Meaning:
The Herald must qualify as an Elite Herald (proably name Herald of Terror)
AND the internal heraldtier must be > 3 (Tier 4+)


idk about this. 2nd herald just dropped sunder for me....


Yes they can drop from all heralds. This has already been proven.

This post was edited by unitedcows on Feb 17 2026 04:11am
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ok correction, my testing was a little faulty. this is how herald spawning works:
you have a 2% chance to gain a token, up to 5 tokens, every time you kill an elite monster (champion, unique, superunique, boss)
you have a 1% chance to convert the token, which turns any newly spawned elite into a herald, however, the 1% chance attempts for as many monsters are total in the monster pack. if the convert chance succeeds multiple times on the same pack, it will spawn another pack in the same spot as the same tier herald.
killing any herald increases the tier of the next herald spawn, so batch spawns can skip herald tiers if you kill all the heralds that spawned at the same tier.
the herald tier does not roll over normally (meaning go all the way up to terror and then roll back around to fright again), and terror heralds will continue to spawn indefinitely in the same game as long as you can keep converting.

since each champion kill can generate a token, champions are MUCH better for herald spawning, both gaining tokens and converting them. act 1 is probably the best act for herald farming, as it has so many tile spawns with large groups of monsters, and several tileset champion packs. if you were wanting high level heralds, i'd probably TZ the acts with fewer boss spawns (including tile packs) first, so act 4 first, act 2, 3, and 5 are probably fairly similar, and then act 1 a decent step above the rest, so doing it last has best chances of getting multiple herald spawns at higher tiers. the moment you spawn a t3 herald, i'd immediately head straight to act 1 if you aren't already there after killing the t3.


Thank you for your additional information. Any data proof on hand? Or is it based on your testing, which is also very valueable at this stage?

It seems hat the TZ affix (e.g. ligthning enchanted, cursed etc.) has also an influence on the spawn behaviour of the herald. In a complete terrorized act3 (which is quite big) no herald spawned. It was cursed. In the same game in act2, which was not cursed but with spectral hit, the first herald spawned immediately in one of the first tombs. This is a n=1 obersvation, but maybe someone from the d2jsp community can confirm this? Thank you for all the testing.

This post was edited by namhan on Feb 17 2026 06:55am
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Feb 17 2026 07:21am
0 chance lod -> rotw will be allowed on ladder


?

classic ladder -> lod ladder is already allowed

they have already said moving forward will be allowed (classic -> lod -> rotw).

if they already said moving forward will be allowed, then any 'compatibility issues' with 'old sunder' and the new 'latent sunder (pre crafted 'new' sunders) have already been solved internally

therefore nothing would stop them from preventing ladder-LOD -> ladder-ROTW other than their care of the economy (which they give no fucks about apparently)

so i think you are OMEGA coping that lod -> rotw ladder will not be allowed

we will see though. you have more faith in blizz than i do! (shame on you)
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