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Feb 15 2026 01:48pm
I'm still waiting for some form of physical proof this imaginary gravity exists. You say it's real, prove it. I'm simply giving you the same exact expectations you are giving others. So let's see it addone. Show me gravity in the flesh

https://i.imgur.com/RC8azVv.jpeg


Gravity never claimed to be a physical you cannot see it in the flesh lmao unlike jesus claim
So you cannot prove gravity with a photo at least not with our current technology. No gravity is proven with its relation to bodies of mass. For example you can jump off a bridge and you will experience gravity, try it dont just take my word for it.

Here i copy pasted a more detailed explanation below

Everyday Observations: The most immediate evidence is that objects fall toward the Earth when dropped. This consistent behavior—like an apple falling from a tree—demonstrates a universal attraction between masses.

Cavendish Experiment (1797): This was the first laboratory experiment to measure the gravitational force between two small masses. Henry Cavendish used a torsion balance with lead spheres to detect the tiny gravitational pull, confirming Newton’s law of universal gravitation and allowing the calculation of the gravitational constant, G.

Planetary and Celestial Motion: The orbits of planets around the Sun, moons around planets, and stars within galaxies all follow predictable paths that match the predictions of gravitational theory. For example, Newtonian gravity accurately predicts planetary orbits, while Einstein’s General Relativity explains anomalies like the precession of Mercury’s orbit.

Modern Confirmation: Space missions, satellite trajectories, and precise timing in GPS systems rely on gravitational models. If gravity did not exist as described, these technologies would fail.

General Relativity: Einstein’s theory describes gravity not as a force, but as the curvature of spacetime caused by mass and energy. This has been confirmed by observing gravitational lensing (bending of light by massive objects), gravitational waves, and the precise motion of objects in strong gravitational fields.

In short, while gravity cannot be "proven" in a philosophical sense, its effects are consistently observed, predicted, and verified across scales—from falling apples to distant galaxies—making it one of the most well-established principles in science.
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Feb 15 2026 02:18pm
How is that a bad example? It was great imo. Assuming the pot and the heat it gives out are seperate from the universe is foolish as they are interconnected. In the expanding universe energy moves away, in a non symetrical time where energy may slow it down or speed it up but it is not destroyed it just changes speed. The energy or matter-energy becomes less dense. In practical physics there are only open systems. Isolated systems are useful in theoretical environments to help us understand certain things better but they arent proven.

Science doesn't claim matter-energy came from pure nothing magic sorcery lmao. At worst some scientists speculate that we came from some kind of low energy state. Most respectable scientists would say they don't really know they will just point out how it looks that way based on the expanding universe. For us to know we have to go back in time and observe it happen. Everything else is speculation.


I already told you why it's a bad example, read it again.

You're also clearly misunderstanding the implications of a lack of time symmetry. The laws of physics literally change. You asked me for a resource to read, I gave you one and you obviously did not read it.

The big bang theory claims that the universe sprang forth from a singularity in an act of pure wizardry. Everything came from nothing and nowhere. We can look back in time to help us build assumptions about the origin of the universe, but that's all they are is assumptions because we can only look back ~13.5b years in the past and the universe already existed at that point.

Gravity never claimed to be a physical you cannot see it in the flesh lmao unlike jesus claim
So you cannot prove gravity with a photo at least not with our current technology. No gravity is proven with its relation to bodies of mass. For example you can jump off a bridge and you will experience gravity, try it dont just take my word for it.

Here i copy pasted a more detailed explanation below

Everyday Observations: The most immediate evidence is that objects fall toward the Earth when dropped. This consistent behavior—like an apple falling from a tree—demonstrates a universal attraction between masses.

Cavendish Experiment (1797): This was the first laboratory experiment to measure the gravitational force between two small masses. Henry Cavendish used a torsion balance with lead spheres to detect the tiny gravitational pull, confirming Newton’s law of universal gravitation and allowing the calculation of the gravitational constant, G.

Planetary and Celestial Motion: The orbits of planets around the Sun, moons around planets, and stars within galaxies all follow predictable paths that match the predictions of gravitational theory. For example, Newtonian gravity accurately predicts planetary orbits, while Einstein’s General Relativity explains anomalies like the precession of Mercury’s orbit.

Modern Confirmation: Space missions, satellite trajectories, and precise timing in GPS systems rely on gravitational models. If gravity did not exist as described, these technologies would fail.

General Relativity: Einstein’s theory describes gravity not as a force, but as the curvature of spacetime caused by mass and energy. This has been confirmed by observing gravitational lensing (bending of light by massive objects), gravitational waves, and the precise motion of objects in strong gravitational fields.

In short, while gravity cannot be "proven" in a philosophical sense, its effects are consistently observed, predicted, and verified across scales—from falling apples to distant galaxies—making it one of the most well-established principles in science.


He's actually right, gravity does not "exist"... It's even in your copy/paste.

You called gravity a force in an earlier post. This is incorrect, it is the Newtonian understanding. Mass causes space-time to curve, creating the illusion of a force, "gravity". In reality an object moves in a straight line, the thing the line is drawn on just happens to be curved. There is no force "gravity" acting on the object. Stop listening to that ai, it tells you whatever you want to hear.
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Feb 15 2026 02:30pm
Gravity never claimed to be a physical you cannot see it in the flesh lmao unlike jesus claim
So you cannot prove gravity with a photo at least not with our current technology. No gravity is proven with its relation to bodies of mass. For example you can jump off a bridge and you will experience gravity, try it dont just take my word for it.

Here i copy pasted a more detailed explanation below

Everyday Observations: The most immediate evidence is that objects fall toward the Earth when dropped. This consistent behavior—like an apple falling from a tree—demonstrates a universal attraction between masses.

Cavendish Experiment (1797): This was the first laboratory experiment to measure the gravitational force between two small masses. Henry Cavendish used a torsion balance with lead spheres to detect the tiny gravitational pull, confirming Newton’s law of universal gravitation and allowing the calculation of the gravitational constant, G.

Planetary and Celestial Motion: The orbits of planets around the Sun, moons around planets, and stars within galaxies all follow predictable paths that match the predictions of gravitational theory. For example, Newtonian gravity accurately predicts planetary orbits, while Einstein’s General Relativity explains anomalies like the precession of Mercury’s orbit.

Modern Confirmation: Space missions, satellite trajectories, and precise timing in GPS systems rely on gravitational models. If gravity did not exist as described, these technologies would fail.

General Relativity: Einstein’s theory describes gravity not as a force, but as the curvature of spacetime caused by mass and energy. This has been confirmed by observing gravitational lensing (bending of light by massive objects), gravitational waves, and the precise motion of objects in strong gravitational fields.

In short, while gravity cannot be "proven" in a philosophical sense, its effects are consistently observed, predicted, and verified across scales—from falling apples to distant galaxies—making it one of the most well-established principles in science.


Checkmate.

I am curious though, how did it feel talking to yourself?
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Feb 15 2026 02:33pm
how old is the universe?
some of this stuff need references. im not going to look for them just now. this is interesting as it is

supposedly we are at or near the center of the universe. (center of the gravity well) ----------------havent been able to find this link

appears gravity is relative?
gravity, the greater the gravity the more time slows down. this has been proven by atomic clocks on a mountain the other in a valley ----------- dont know if i can find this link either

so?

at the center of the universe would be the center of the gravity well time is the slowest.

at the edge of the universe (gravity well) time would move fastest.

so things are old at the edge and younger as one moves to the center?

how old is the universe? its old and young, all at the same ?time? :)

interesting? they calculate the age of the universe by measuring light from distant stars. ? they measure the old stuff?

^Shadowoffury
i think its the redlight shift they say proves the universe is expanding?
before this discovery it was believed the universe was infinite? (steady state)
red light shift changed that belief (mostly) and now the universe has a beginning.
its another example how progression of science ends up in harmony with scripture.


It's true to say we're at the exact center of the universe. Everyone is, no matter where they are. It's also true to say that no one is at the center of the universe because it has no center. Where is the center of the surface of the earth? It's either nowhere or it's wherever you happen to be standing.

We can see a certain distance in every direction. No edge in sight. If we move in one direction to the edge of our currently observable universe we will still be able to see that same distance in every direction, there is nowhere in the universe where this is not true. There is no edge.

The concept of an "edge" implies that we are expanding into something, some extra space, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Space itself is the thing expanding.
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Feb 15 2026 03:57pm
It's true to say we're at the exact center of the universe. Everyone is, no matter where they are. It's also true to say that no one is at the center of the universe because it has no center. Where is the center of the surface of the earth? It's either nowhere or it's wherever you happen to be standing.

We can see a certain distance in every direction. No edge in sight. If we move in one direction to the edge of our currently observable universe we will still be able to see that same distance in every direction, there is nowhere in the universe where this is not true. There is no edge.

The concept of an "edge" implies that we are expanding into something, some extra space, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Space itself is the thing expanding.

the center of the earth would be its core. i think your using a bad analogy here?

you believe the universe is infinite and eternal? had no beginning? i believe thats called steady state?
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Feb 15 2026 05:56pm
Checkmate.

I am curious though, how did it feel talking to yourself?


Exactly you claim Jesus was here in the flesh yet can't provide the evidence.
Gravity was never here in the flesh therefore you can't demand physical proof.

Checkmate yourself there lmao.

I already told you why it's a bad example, read it again.

You're also clearly misunderstanding the implications of a lack of time symmetry. The laws of physics literally change. You asked me for a resource to read, I gave you one and you obviously did not read it.

The big bang theory claims that the universe sprang forth from a singularity in an act of pure wizardry. Everything came from nothing and nowhere. We can look back in time to help us build assumptions about the origin of the universe, but that's all they are is assumptions because we can only look back ~13.5b years in the past and the universe already existed at that point.



He's actually right, gravity does not "exist"... It's even in your copy/paste.

You called gravity a force in an earlier post. This is incorrect, it is the Newtonian understanding. Mass causes space-time to curve, creating the illusion of a force, "gravity". In reality an object moves in a straight line, the thing the line is drawn on just happens to be curved. There is no force "gravity" acting on the object. Stop listening to that ai, it tells you whatever you want to hear.


You seem to think that I believe in big bang as some kind of unquestionable fact.
I do not. It is a theory and only some scientists think how things happened I am not one of them so I do not even have to defend it. As far as I know big bang theory came from some kind of dense, hot state. NOT from pure Nothing. Stop twisting definitions.

So ask those scientists that believe it came from nothing.

Gravity is a force in Newtonian physics but in general relativity it is considered a curvature in spacetime cause by mass energy. I was simply explaining to the non science Christian because he failed basic school in simplest terms I could.
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Feb 15 2026 06:01pm
Exactly you claim Jesus was here in the flesh yet can't provide the evidence.
Gravity was never here in the flesh therefore you can't demand physical proof.

Checkmate yourself there lmao.



You seem to think that I believe in big bang as some kind of unquestionable fact.
I do not. It is a theory and only some scientists think how things happened I am not one of them so I do not even have to defend it. As far as I know big bang theory came from some kind of dense, hot state. NOT from pure Nothing. Stop twisting definitions.

So ask those scientists that believe it came from nothing.

Gravity is a force in Newtonian physics but in general relativity it is considered a curvature in spacetime cause by mass energy. I was simply explaining to the non science Christian because he failed basic school in simplest terms I could.


Show me George Washington in the flesh.
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Feb 15 2026 09:03pm
Show me George Washington in the flesh.


There is a burial site with his remains at mount Vernon, Virginia well documented
His dentures are on display in mount vermon
There is hair samples along with his dna
Multiple articles of clothing and personal things he used are in the museum
His signature is on many documents including the constitution.
He didnt have his own descendants but he has had brothers who have his dna from the same parents which can be traced
There are several live portraits and a live mask and bust taken by a sculptor
There are numerous literature and accounts all independant from thousands of different sources which collaborate his existence.
He was elected president of united states by millions of voters and this is a fact you can check
George Washington never claimed he had magical powers or that he would ressurect and come visit at a later date.

Unlike this fictional jesus you keep promising will return for over 2000 years. All you have is 1 book from a cult that makes baseless claims and doesn't back them up.
Time to stop drinking the kool-aid bud and get back to reality. Or keep coping for another 2000 years and hope your magic god will return.


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Feb 15 2026 09:20pm
Exactly you claim Jesus was here in the flesh yet can't provide the evidence.
Gravity was never here in the flesh therefore you can't demand physical proof.

Checkmate yourself there lmao.



You seem to think that I believe in big bang as some kind of unquestionable fact.
I do not. It is a theory and only some scientists think how things happened I am not one of them so I do not even have to defend it. As far as I know big bang theory came from some kind of dense, hot state. NOT from pure Nothing. Stop twisting definitions.

So ask those scientists that believe it came from nothing.

Gravity is a force in Newtonian physics but in general relativity it is considered a curvature in spacetime cause by mass energy. I was simply explaining to the non science Christian because he failed basic school in simplest terms I could.


The bang bang theory relies on a singularity. It's nothing and nowhere.

But if you don't believe in it that's fine, we can talk about what you believe. You will have to tell me what that is though. If you don't have a better explanation for the origins of the universe you should really stop pretending that you do.

You defined gravity as a force and said "you cannot see it or touch it. Yet it is there." This is all wrong. Gravity is not there, it's just a relic word we still use to discuss a concept which is too esoteric for most people to discuss in other terms... Attacking other people for being uneducated when you clearly didn't know the science you were discussing is pretty ironic bud.

Here's another one of your quotes on the subject that is all wrong "It is a force that can be observed, measured and even replicated artificially in relation to physical objects." Again, it is not a force, but also gravity can not be replicated artificially. It is the curvature of space time as we have said, unless you can curve space time you are not replicating gravity. You can use centrifugal force to achieve a result that feels similar. It is not similar.
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Feb 15 2026 09:40pm
There is a burial site with his remains at mount Vernon, Virginia well documented
His dentures are on display in mount vermon
There is hair samples along with his dna
Multiple articles of clothing and personal things he used are in the museum
His signature is on many documents including the constitution.
He didnt have his own descendants but he has had brothers who have his dna from the same parents which can be traced
There are several live portraits and a live mask and bust taken by a sculptor
There are numerous literature and accounts all independant from thousands of different sources which collaborate his existence.
He was elected president of united states by millions of voters and this is a fact you can check
George Washington never claimed he had magical powers or that he would ressurect and come visit at a later date.

Unlike this fictional jesus you keep promising will return for over 2000 years. All you have is 1 book from a cult that makes baseless claims and doesn't back them up.
Time to stop drinking the kool-aid bud and get back to reality. Or keep coping for another 2000 years and hope your magic god will return.

https://imgur.com/am39vav.jpeg


Historical proof for Jesus disagrees with your opinion.

It's entertaining to watch you not be able to give me the same exact expectations you are giving others. You can't even perform your own arguments.

84 pages in and you continue to fail.

Jesus is still the same yesterday, today and forever.
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