I'd like to know if Echoing strike need AR%?

Some people say it doesn't need to, what's your opinion?

If it's useless, would a pet need with Frozen Aura + Cursed be better?
Would it be faster to cast the curse? Or
Fanaticism + Cursed?

thanks.

Spirit helps you hit a higher fcr break point, but Phoenix gives me 30k dmg so idk

doesn't the skill give AR %?

And apparently Echoing Strike also automatically hits without passing a hit check, so don't need any attack rating ( probably a bug tho )

Information from MacroBioBoi, if you wanna watch all the details for yourself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBZ1NqJjzaE&t=316s

So what would be best then for the weapon

Depends on your setup. I’d go Edeath decap for 125fcr for DS. 48/75 fcr I’d go ebotd war pike with pheonix

This post was edited by Daffodil on Feb 14 2026 04:32pm

Agreed IMO, 48 fcr breakpoint is good enough.

My ladder reset approach will be self wield insight until I get a 5os eth base to make Obedience it will do like 2x the dmg of insight. Slap insight on MERC with might aura, bind demon with Fanaticism.

I was doing testing with a ETH BOTD warpike VS ETH warpike obedience. The damage difference was only like 6k.. Sure you lose life leech, but gain up to 30 res, some dex and strength. OH and YEH you dont need a ZOD.

The budget potential with obedience is just absolutely insane, people thought mosaic was too cheap a runeword haha. Highest rune cost is now only a FAL to destory hell.

This post was edited by Brandon9405 on Feb 14 2026 06:28pm

125 fcr clears faster than any other build, I dont think 75fcr builds are capable of sub 2min chaos runs p8 tz

Perhaps with T8 tz the 125 is fcr the fastest, I'm still testing a lot.

I just solod p1 chaos completely naked except for wielding my obedience 1-2 shotting every pack and having my demon summoned. Didnt even bring merc.

Moral of story is this is just broken and I love it. lol

just use eth insight with phoenix