"Israel" in the bible does not mean a land, it refers to god's chosen people. During the time of the old testament this means Jewish people. after the coming and resurrection of Jesus Christ this means Christians.

While God in the bible is referred to as having a special deference for the holy land (which the modern state of Israel is a part of) this leads to a common 2 pronged misconception of the scripture.

God wasn't referring to the land of Israel, he was referring to his chosen people. and secondly those chosen people are no longer the Jewish people after he sent his son to earth to die.

this was understood very well for perhaps a thousand and a half years. then in the wake of WW2 Jewish people sought to resume close ties with many sects of Christianity in the western world as they immigrated to non-orthodox locations like the USA. and because of both Jewish groups and evangelicals/protestants the interpretation of the gospel has been tainted.

there is no theological tie between Judaism and Christianity. Judaism is blasphemy to Christianity. it believes the savior of all mankind is burning in the pits of hell. Islam respects and reveres Jesus, Judaism spits upon him as a figure and considers him a false prophet. while the history of Christian and Jewish people in Europe did have many issues like the ability to charge interest, and Jews living in many insulated communities, we can not ignore the effect that Judaism itself as a faith has had on the relationship with Jews and Christians. They killed Jesus, and in the wake of his death the descendants of almost all modern Jews chose not to take up the new faith, but instead follow the Pharisees in resuming their faith.

whether we consider the jewish people cursed magically from god for killing jesus or not, its true that they've been cursed by generations of mankind for their faith and the role it played in killing the messiah.

thanks, i found that interesting

ty, maybe i should of said in prophecy the world turns against the jewish? i am not sure i need to do some bible study

Reread Revelation 3:9

It is important to understand that true, legitimate Judaism does not exist anymore, and hasn't since the coming of Christ. In the Pharisidic times, true Judaism existed only in the persecuted faithful. It was corrupted by the Pharisees who twisted it into a malevolent force, followed by the coming of Jesus to redeem the faithful & the rest of humanity. So Judaism, and the spiritual nation of Israel, is now Christianity.

The present day state of "Israel" is a trick by the adherents of the synagogue of Satan as revealed in the book of Revelation.

You'll be sleeping forever I'm afraid.

There is not much point in discussing politics as the laws aren't being enforced and criminals aren't getting arrested. Its every man for himself in one giant survivor simulator.

without objective morality you wanting laws enforced and criminals who rape, murder, and things so terrible I can't even mention on d2jsp isn't good or bad it's just your personal preference and they have the power and money. there's no good or bad, just whatever you have the power to get away with.

Wtf are you on about? We already have good laws they are just not being enforced/ignored on the upper class.

yea but they have power and money so its fine lol. nothing wrong with it

i am not what i understand a zionist is. i have little interest in the affairs of the jews. to put it bluntly, they are Gods problem not mine
my problem is to work out my own salvation with fear and trembling Philippians 2:12

i have a simple understanding of the jew/palistine conflict. its the world chewing on itself. the only escape is repentance

i havent been able to find what i am looking for. somewhere in prophecy the world turns against the jews again and they flee again? some believe to some ancient ruins carved out of some mountain. i dont remember the name of the place
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Matthew 24:16-21
King James Version
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

King James Bible
But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:
petra through a canyon

i cant tell are those people standing in the doorway?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e8/Al_Deir_Petra.JPG/330px-Al_Deir_Petra.JPG

? different buildings but similar structure design?

This post was edited by TiStuff on Feb 14 2026 01:21pm