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Feb 13 2026 03:19am
Are you about to use appeal to authority logical fallacy on me if I say otherwise?

Good, I thought so now back to the shadows.


no,, i would say "bullchit" :)
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Feb 13 2026 04:01am
You asked me what might have happened next to the leper.
Nothing in real life because magic isn't real. But withing the context of this fictitious story we can only assume he did as instructed. That is neither remarkable or controversial in any way.

Incidentally this proves my point when the narrative is convenient you follow the simplest most straightforward conclusion. When the bible provides a contradiction or magic you begin reaching for an elaborate explanation instead of arriving at the simplest solution that it's a contradiction.
This is a confirmation bias at work.

One of my favorite examples is how did Noah fit millions/billions of animals all around planet into a boat. Can you explain the logistics there?
Because without some serious mental gymnastics maths isn't mathing. I always enjoy Christians appologists sweat trying to explain their way out of that one.


You only say that now because I already gave you the answer.

I disagree with your point. The simplest most straightforward conclusion for you is to cry contradiction because then you don't do any research of your own. My "elaborate explanation" is behind actual time and research on the text as opposed to a split second decision on your part.

When it comes to Noah's Ark, I was only going to go as far as the Genealogy of Jesus as I am not an expert in all subjects.

Since D_urRRR gave you the mathematics and explanation I am not going to double up. All I am going to say is to read the passage and it will be explained to you.

Me, I created everything. I am god. Prove me wrong.


Then you should have 0 problem responding to every single point in the following text, if you can do that then there will be part 2:

“Who is this that darkens counsel by words without knowledge?
Dress for action like a man;
I will question you, and you make it known to me.

“Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth?
Tell me, if you have understanding.
Who determined its measurements—surely you know!
Or who stretched the line upon it?
On what were its bases sunk,
or who laid its cornerstone,
when the morning stars sang together
and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

“Or who shut in the sea with doors
when it burst out from the womb,
when I made clouds its garment
and thick darkness its swaddling band,
and prescribed limits for it
and set bars and doors,
and said, ‘Thus far shall you come, and no farther,
and here shall your proud waves be stayed’?

“Have you commanded the morning since your days began,
and caused the dawn to know its place,
that it might take hold of the skirts of the earth,
and the wicked be shaken out of it?
It is changed like clay under the seal,
and its features stand out like a garment.
From the wicked their light is withheld,
and their uplifted arm is broken.

“Have you entered into the springs of the sea,
or walked in the recesses of the deep?
Have the gates of death been revealed to you,
or have you seen the gates of deep darkness?
Have you comprehended the expanse of the earth?
Declare, if you know all this.

“Where is the way to the dwelling of light,
and where is the place of darkness,
that you may take it to its territory
and that you may discern the paths to its home?
You know, for you were born then,
and the number of your days is great!

“Have you entered the storehouses of the snow,
or have you seen the storehouses of the hail,
which I have reserved for the time of trouble,
for the day of battle and war?
What is the way to the place where the light is distributed,
or where the east wind is scattered upon the earth?

“Who has cleft a channel for the torrents of rain
and a way for the thunderbolt,
to bring rain on a land where no man is,
on the desert in which there is no man,
to satisfy the waste and desolate land,
and to make the ground sprout with grass?

“Has the rain a father,
or who has begotten the drops of dew?
From whose womb did the ice come forth,
and who has given birth to the frost of heaven?
The waters become hard like stone,
and the face of the deep is frozen.

“Can you bind the chains of the Pleiades
or loose the cords of Orion?
Can you lead forth the Mazzaroth in their season,
or can you guide the Bear with its children?
Do you know the ordinances of the heavens?
Can you establish their rule on the earth?

“Can you lift up your voice to the clouds,
that a flood of waters may cover you?
Can you send forth lightnings, that they may go
and say to you, ‘Here we are’?
Who has put wisdom in the inward parts
or given understanding to the mind?
Who can number the clouds by wisdom?
Or who can tilt the waterskins of the heavens,
when the dust runs into a mass
and the clods stick fast together?

“Can you hunt the prey for the lion,
or satisfy the appetite of the young lions,
when they crouch in their dens
or lie in wait in their thicket?
Who provides for the raven its prey,
when its young ones cry to God for help,
and wander about for lack of food?

“Do you know when the mountain goats give birth?
Do you observe the calving of the does?
Can you number the months that they fulfill,
and do you know the time when they give birth,
when they crouch, bring forth their offspring,
and are delivered of their young?
Their young ones become strong; they grow up in the open;
they go out and do not return to them.

“Who has let the wild donkey go free?
Who has loosed the bonds of the swift donkey,
to whom I have given the arid plain for his home
and the salt land for his dwelling place?
He scorns the tumult of the city;
he hears not the shouts of the driver.
He ranges the mountains as his pasture,
and he searches after every green thing.

“Is the wild ox willing to serve you?
Will he spend the night at your manger?
Can you bind him in the furrow with ropes,
or will he harrow the valleys after you?
Will you depend on him because his strength is great,
and will you leave to him your labor?
Do you have faith in him that he will return your grain
and gather it to your threshing floor?

“The wings of the ostrich wave proudly,
but are they the pinions and plumage of love?
For she leaves her eggs to the earth
and lets them be warmed on the ground,
forgetting that a foot may crush them
and that the wild beast may trample them.
She deals cruelly with her young, as if they were not hers;
though her labor be in vain, yet she has no fear,
because God has made her forget wisdom
and given her no share in understanding.
When she rouses herself to flee,
she laughs at the horse and his rider.

“Do you give the horse his might?
Do you clothe his neck with a mane?
Do you make him leap like the locust?
His majestic snorting is terrifying.
He paws in the valley and exults in his strength;
he goes out to meet the weapons.
He laughs at fear and is not dismayed;
he does not turn back from the sword.
Upon him rattle the quiver,
the flashing spear, and the javelin.
With fierceness and rage he swallows the ground;
he cannot stand still at the sound of the trumpet.
When the trumpet sounds, he says ‘Aha!’
He smells the battle from afar,
the thunder of the captains, and the shouting.

“Is it by your understanding that the hawk soars
and spreads his wings toward the south?
Is it at your command that the eagle mounts up
and makes his nest on high?
On the rock he dwells and makes his home,
on the rocky crag and stronghold.
From there he spies out the prey;
his eyes behold it from far away.
His young ones suck up blood,
and where the slain are, there is he.”
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Feb 13 2026 06:51am
If god wipes out all life on earth except those in the magical boat which there are only 2 of a kind. That means from those 2 kinds all other variations have evolved over a mere 4359 years ago. Because you are insisting that from 6,000–16,000 animals we got billions of species that we have today. That is complete rubbish you have failed the most elementary understanding how evolution works.

This is another case study of don't blindly believe what you read. I know you must think that the bible means well but the math isn't mathing.


Modern thinking vs heavenly intervention.

I absolutely believe God achieved this because this is God's truth over what happened during the flood.
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Feb 13 2026 09:41am
Addone, serious question, why do you even try to argue these people? You're obviously never going to win. They always have some baseless new fact they would never be able to know/answer themselves. This D_urRRR guy writing like he build the Ark himself. Surely you must know by now, never, will you make them see anything clearly.

Edit: Gotten a warn because they found what I wrote really offensive. It's like the mods never browsed the other parts of the forums!
Edit: CPK guy obviously just goes on google and copy pastas anything he finds, a quick look at his profile will show just that.

This post was edited by Pook1212123 on Feb 13 2026 09:56am
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Feb 13 2026 11:41am
Addone, serious question, why do you even try to argue these people? You're obviously never going to win. They always have some baseless new fact they would never be able to know/answer themselves. This D_urRRR guy writing like he build the Ark himself. Surely you must know by now, never, will you make them see anything clearly.

Edit: Gotten a warn because they found what I wrote really offensive. It's like the mods never browsed the other parts of the forums!
Edit: CPK guy obviously just goes on google and copy pastas anything he finds, a quick look at his profile will show just that.


addone likes to lose arguments

you ever wonder why of all the things people "dont believe" its christianity they are the most obsessed with.

when i first got online and started researching everything i discovered a new creature i never heard of. they are called antitheists. not to be confused with atheists. antitheists even have the atheists baffled.

there was a study done. what makes a antitheist tick. they hooked them up to one of them brain monitoring machines. the results were is they get some kind of dare devil thrill out of attacking God and christians all the time.

This post was edited by TiStuff on Feb 13 2026 11:47am
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Feb 13 2026 04:15pm
Addone, serious question, why do you even try to argue these people? You're obviously never going to win. They always have some baseless new fact they would never be able to know/answer themselves. This D_urRRR guy writing like he build the Ark himself. Surely you must know by now, never, will you make them see anything clearly.

Edit: Gotten a warn because they found what I wrote really offensive. It's like the mods never browsed the other parts of the forums!
Edit: CPK guy obviously just goes on google and copy pastas anything he finds, a quick look at his profile will show just that.


What's the matter? Dodging? You said you were god and wanted us to prove you wrong. If Job, who had all taken from him, couldn't give an answer then what hope do you have?
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Feb 13 2026 05:15pm
Addone, serious question, why do you even try to argue these people? You're obviously never going to win. They always have some baseless new fact they would never be able to know/answer themselves. This D_urRRR guy writing like he build the Ark himself. Surely you must know by now, never, will you make them see anything clearly.

Edit: Gotten a warn because they found what I wrote really offensive. It's like the mods never browsed the other parts of the forums!
Edit: CPK guy obviously just goes on google and copy pastas anything he finds, a quick look at his profile will show just that.


Baseless facts is an oxymoron. Do not lower your intelligence or your cool down to their level. They do not rely on merit of their arguments to win they are waiting for you to slip up and say something offensive. Thats how they got you.
Their entire strategy is to cry and use underhanded tricks
My objective isn't to win its to expose them. They prove themselves wrong. If I wanted to win I would favour one of their opponents. These a tribalistic people, it wouldn't take much to pit the christians against muslims or jews. They are too tunneled visioned to see that fighting over invisible gods is precisely why religion was created in a first place.

You must rise above those dogmas and utilize the slave class to your advantage. If you can't win with logic then use them to do your bidding or at the very least entertaining yourself.



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Feb 13 2026 07:26pm
Addone, serious question, why do you even try to argue these people? You're obviously never going to win. They always have some baseless new fact they would never be able to know/answer themselves. This D_urRRR guy writing like he build the Ark himself. Surely you must know by now, never, will you make them see anything clearly.

Edit: Gotten a warn because they found what I wrote really offensive. It's like the mods never browsed the other parts of the forums!
Edit: CPK guy obviously just goes on google and copy pastas anything he finds, a quick look at his profile will show just that.


Thank you for confirming what we discussed as fact and not fake like addone here.

Christianity and God are both a fact and God's word is just.

I would love to see your point of view when you have time.

What is it that you believe in and what evidence do you have to back it up?
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Feb 13 2026 07:29pm
I've got news for you, addone. Those two scriptures are NOT contradictions. In fact, they are saying the same thing. Ecclesiastes 1:4 assures us that the earth will never be destroyed, while Psalm 104:5 assures us that the earth will remain in its position with relationship to the other planets, further proof that the earth will never be destroyed.


At another time, I will address your other two claims regarding what you view as Bible contradictions.


Lets go over a list of these so called prophecies because I have a feeling these are very generic, non specific things that you are confusing for a genuine prediction.


Prophecies and predictions are two entirely different things. That's the first clue you don't know what you're talking about, addone. Prophecies come from a supernatural source aka the Abrahamic God, Jehovah. A prediction, on the other hand, is "a statement about a future event or outcome based on evidence, reasoning, or analysis."

https://thisvsthat.io/prediction-vs-prophecy


For instance, a weather forecaster might predict rain. Sometimes they are wrong, because it does not rain. A prophecy, on the other hand, as found in Jehovah's inspired word, the Judeo-Christian Bible, is ALWAYS accurate.





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Feb 13 2026 08:48pm
Prophecies and predictions are two entirely different things. That's the first clue you don't know what you're talking about, addone. Prophecies come from a supernatural source aka the Abrahamic God, Jehovah. A prediction, on the other hand, is "a statement about a future event or outcome based on evidence, reasoning, or analysis."

https://thisvsthat.io/prediction-vs-prophecy


For instance, a weather forecaster might predict rain. Sometimes they are wrong, because it does not rain. A prophecy, on the other hand, as found in Jehovah's inspired word, the Judeo-Christian Bible, is ALWAYS accurate.





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Cool instead of providing me with the so called prophecies you instead wanted to go on a tangent wasting your breath on discussing semantics in definition.
If you don't have proof bible prophecies are nothing more than a word salad.
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