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Feb 12 2026 10:30am
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I could argue with you, but I won't. Arguing with nutjobs never ends satisfyingly for anyone. And clearly, you are far gone mate.
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Feb 12 2026 10:44am
I could argue with you, but I won't. Arguing with nutjobs never ends satisfyingly for anyone. And clearly, you are far gone mate.


I don't argue, but I enjoy open civil discussions sharing different points of view.

If people can't love one another while discussing their differences peacefully then that is a huge problem. My first impression is you are not able to do this and again reflects a heart issue like other individuals here. The moment you allow hate in your heart for others who have not wronged you due to their beliefs and apply negative identification labels for them like "nutjobs" too far gone mentally" etc then it's actually you that has opportunity.

Me knowing God is the leader of my life should not be a reason for you to hate me, talk down on me, and apply judgement on me. Nor should it prevent you from having an open and kind heart for others.

I'm sorry you feel the way you do, but I'll never treat you differently, even while you don't see the wrong in your behavior.
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Feb 12 2026 09:34pm
So you don't have an answer?


Lol he told you it was him multiple times and every time you dismissed it. Just a simple reverse counter logic and you are already melting.

You were already explained how Noah did this and the issue again is you misunderstanding the text and by applying a modern worldview. I'll break it down again.

God instructed Noah to bring two of every “kind” of land animal, and seven pairs of certain clean animals (Genesis 6–7).

The term “kind” in Hebrew means "min", not modern biological “species.”

Noah did not take millions of species. He took representatives of broader categories (“kinds”). For example: Instead of every dog breed, just two wolf-like ancestors. Instead of every cat species, two ancestral cats. After the flood, animals diversified into today’s species. Not everything animal would of been full grown, juvenile animals are much smaller in size and require a less amount of food.

Ark Dimensions (Genesis 6:15)

Length: 300 cubits. Width: 50 cubits. Height: 30 cubits. A cubit is 18 inches (0.45 m). That gives Length: 450 ft (137 m). Width: 75 ft (23 m) and Height: 45 ft (14 m).

Total Volume 450×75×45=1,518,750 cubic feet is about 43,000 cubic meters. Roughly equal to 522 modern railroad boxcars in volume.

The ark had 3 decks. 450×75×3=101,250 square feet. That’s about the size of a large warehouse. 1,500–2,000 “kinds” of animals doubled for pairs. Total estimate: 6,000–16,000 animals

16,000 animals as a high-end estimate. Most animals are small. 90% of animal species are smaller than sheep. Many are rodents, birds, reptiles. A sheep requires about 10–15 square feet of stall space. Let’s assume 12 sq ft per animal.

16,000×12=192,000sq ft. Here's where addone would say, "But the ark only had 101,250 sq ft total deck space."

If average animal volume equals roughly 3 cubic feet (many small animals, some large ones), then:

16,000×3=48,000 cubic feet
Ark total volume: 1,518,750 cubic feet. Animals would occupy only about 3–4% of total volume.

That leaves food storage, waste, space for Noah's family, and walkways.

Math doesn't lie. There's many videos giving this demonstration too.

God is amazing.


Kinds ok lol let's take that at face value. Noah took a pair of house cats lets say. What you are telling me that in a span of 4359 years from those 2 cats we got every felidae family leopards, tigers lions, bobcats and anything in between.
Clearly you don't know how evolution works.

Don't forget according to the bible if would make every animal a byproduct of inbreeding.

Some of the biggest zoos in the world dont have that many animals and this is with hundreds/thousands of full time staff with modern facilities. What a load of baloney
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Feb 12 2026 09:46pm
Lol he told you it was him multiple times and every time you dismissed it. Just a simple reverse counter logic and you are already melting.



Kinds ok lol let's take that at face value. Noah took a pair of house cats lets say. What you are telling me that in a span of 4359 years from those 2 cats we got every felidae family leopards, tigers lions, bobcats and anything in between.
Clearly you don't know how evolution works.

Don't forget according to the bible if would make every animal a byproduct of inbreeding.

Some of the biggest zoos in the world dont have that many animals and this is with hundreds/thousands of full time staff with modern facilities. What a load of baloney


I didn't make an evolution claim. I gave you an accurate description of God's word.

God is good.
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Feb 12 2026 10:04pm
It is obviously a made up story from collections of writings with many unknown unverified authors. Translated and curated by several councils of men who decided what is to be included or excluded. Mainly so it's more palatable for an average pleb in order to control them.

If you step back and look at it as a whole it is nothing more then a bedtime story for adults to behave in a certain manner. It is one of many (thousands) of religions. Just about everyone on the planet had mythological story of some kind that they shared around the campfire. Everyone thinks theirs is the best and the one true religion, just like hardcore sports fans cheer for their home team.
As an outsider who isn't affiliated with any of these archaic dogmas it is obvious that none of them are the best or real. Observing here people in pard you will notice there is a distinct tribal conflict between left vs right.

The purpose of this thread is to explore the contradictions, make light of the magical story and to hopefully bring awareness to the religious fans who seem to be under the spell that their invisible dad is real.

Lets begin!



Really, addone? Then suppose you explain away the nearly 2,000 accurately fulfilled prophecies found within the Judeo-Christian Bible? The accurate fulfillment of some of those prophecies have been confirmed by archeologists and secular historians? Anything "secular" means it has no connection with religion.



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Feb 12 2026 10:15pm
Lets start with a few basic contradictions. I know some of you have been itching for me to come back and prove me wrong well here is your chance. Lets keep it civil and try to answer each other truthfully without devolving into kindergarten.


#1 - The Earth Does Not Last Forever
In Ecclesiastes 1:4, we read that“the earth remains forever,” a sentiment echoed in Psalm 104:5, which praises God for laying the foundations of the earth so firmly that “it should never be moved.”

However, this view contrasts sharply with certain passages in the New Testament that foresee the destruction of the current earth and the creation of a new one. For example, 2 Peter 3:13 describes the hope for “new heavens and a new earth, where righteousness dwells,” and Revelation 21:1 envisions “a new heaven and a new earth” after the first has passed away.

#2 - The Number of Animals Noah Took on the Ark
Another example that reminds us of the discrepancies in the Bible can be found in the story of Noah and the Ark. In Genesis 6:19-20, God commands Noah to take two of every kind of animal — one male and one female — onto the Ark to preserve their species. However, in Genesis 7:2-3, the instructions are more specific, stating that Noah should take seven pairs of clean animals (suitable for sacrifice) and one pair of unclean animals.

So, which is it? This discrepancy reflects differing traditions within the text, likely stemming from the merging of multiple sources behind the composition of Genesis. As Robert Alter explains in his Commentary:

As scholarship has often noted, two versions of the Flood story, the Priestly and the Yahwistic, are intertwined in a somewhat confusing fashion... Abraham ibn Ezra and other medieval exegetes rescue consistency by proposing that when God directed attention to the clean-unclean distinction, He had to add the difference in numbers because more animals needed to be sacrificed. (Noah, like his counterpart in the Mesopotamian Flood stories, does in fact offer a thanksgiving sacrifice after the waters recede.) But the tensions between the two versions, including how they record the time span of the Flood, persist, and there are some indications that the editor himself struggled to harmonize them.


#3 - Two Creation Stories
In exploring other biblical contradictions, we are (for now) staying with the Book of Genesis, which begins with two distinct accounts of creation. In Genesis 1:1-2:3, it unfolds in a structured, ordered sequence over six days, culminating in the creation of humanity (male and female) together on the sixth day.

In Genesis 2:4-25, however, the narrative is more focused on human formation. Here, man (Adam) is created first from the dust of the ground, followed by vegetation, animals, and finally, a woman (Eve) as a helper. This portrayal is more intimate and anthropocentric, with God personally shaping Adam and breathing life into him.


I've got news for you, addone. Those two scriptures are NOT contradictions. In fact, they are saying the same thing. Ecclesiastes 1:4 assures us that the earth will never be destroyed, while Psalm 104:5 assures us that the earth will remain in its position with relationship to the other planets, further proof that the earth will never be destroyed.


At another time, I will address your other two claims regarding what you view as Bible contradictions.



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This post was edited by NeutralZone on Feb 12 2026 10:17pm
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Feb 12 2026 10:49pm
Really, addone? Then suppose you explain away the nearly 2,000 accurately fulfilled prophecies found within the Judeo-Christian Bible? The accurate fulfillment of some of those prophecies have been confirmed by archeologists and secular historians? Anything "secular" means it has no connection with religion.



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Lets go over a list of these so called prophecies because I have a feeling these are very generic, non specific things that you are confusing for a genuine prediction.
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Feb 12 2026 10:58pm
I didn't make an evolution claim. I gave you an accurate description of God's word.

God is good.


If god wipes out all life on earth except those in the magical boat which there are only 2 of a kind. That means from those 2 kinds all other variations have evolved over a mere 4359 years ago. Because you are insisting that from 6,000–16,000 animals we got billions of species that we have today. That is complete rubbish you have failed the most elementary understanding how evolution works.

This is another case study of don't blindly believe what you read. I know you must think that the bible means well but the math isn't mathing.
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If god wipes out all life on earth except those in the magical boat which there are only 2 of a kind. That means from those 2 kinds all other variations have evolved over a mere 4359 years ago. Because you are insisting that from 6,000–16,000 animals we got billions of species that we have today. That is complete rubbish you have failed the most elementary understanding how evolution works.

This is another case study of don't blindly believe what you read. I know you must think that the bible means well but the math isn't mathing.


your a genetic expert now?
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Feb 13 2026 03:11am
your a genetic expert now?


Are you about to use appeal to authority logical fallacy on me if I say otherwise?

Good, I thought so now back to the shadows.
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