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Feb 11 2026 04:59am
The problem I see with ICE is they're missing their mandate by miles..Obama allegedly netted higher numbers. Instead they're objective seems to be subverted and now they're just being used tactically to target very specific sanctuary cities. Like pulling a few weeds by your front door while your garden is getting choked out


A big part of it depends on what you think their objectives are. A lot of people voted for Trump because of immigration, and since he's been in office, border crossings have plummeted. That's not due to Congress; rather, it's because the current administration is making it very clear they'll actually enforce the laws. Targeting sanctuary cities, which attempt to subvert the federal government, makes perfect sense. I think all the publicity is part of the plan - it serves to signal to people who were on the fence as to whether or not to enter the US illegally to not do so. Of all the promises made by presidents, I'm not sure I can think of one that's been more fulfilled than Trump's regarding immigration. That being said, it doesn't mean there aren't ravenous people out there in the streets foaming at the mouth, ready to antagonize ICE as much as they can until they end up getting shot. Biden ran a de facto open border in order to please the "no one is illegal on stolen land" lefties; it just happens to be that a significant amount of Americans don't want that. But it may well be that Americans don't want ICE to be this aggressive either.

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A big part of it depends on what you think their objectives are. A lot of people voted for Trump because of immigration, and since he's been in office, border crossings have plummeted. That's not due to Congress; rather, it's because the current administration is making it very clear they'll actually enforce the laws. Targeting sanctuary cities, which attempt to subvert the federal government, makes perfect sense. I think all the publicity is part of the plan - it serves to signal to people who were on the fence as to whether or not to enter the US illegally to not do so. Of all the promises made by presidents, I'm not sure I can think of one that's been more fulfilled than Trump's regarding immigration. That being said, it doesn't mean there aren't ravenous people out there in the streets foaming at the mouth, ready to antagonize ICE as much as they can until they end up getting shot. Biden ran a de facto open border in order to please the "no one is illegal on stolen land" lefties; it just happens to be that a significant amount of Americans don't want that. But it may well be that Americans don't want ICE to be this aggressive either.


The changes at the border have been awesome. The best part of the immigration policy changes. As for the deportation mandate, by the numbers it will not be fulfilled as most were thinking. If people think a few anecdotes on TV are fulfilling said mandate, then public has been fooled.
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Feb 11 2026 07:42am
The changes at the border have been awesome. The best part of the immigration policy changes. As for the deportation mandate, by the numbers it will not be fulfilled as most were thinking. If people think a few anecdotes on TV are fulfilling said mandate, then public has been fooled.


I don't think the people who wanted mass deportations are going to be fooled; they will be disappointed, and that might be a bad thing for long-term stability - I largely vibe with the narrative that most of the populist uprising in the West is tied to mass immigration (in the US's case, illegal immigration). I do, however, believe the average American was more concerned with securing the border and deporting violent illegals than with the promised mass deportations. Moving forward, it's going to be a question of whether or not ICE has gone too far for those voters imo
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Feb 11 2026 08:14am
For anyone that cares, a more average story. No vehicle ramming, no alleged gun brandishing. No white savior syndrome. Sounds like the judicial backend for the ICE campaign is sloppy AF

"We are incredibly relieved and grateful to share that bond has officially been granted.

We are now awaiting the payment link so we can post bond and move to the final step — her release. We are especially thankful that our attorney proactively filed a second bond request in New Mexico, which is the hearing that ultimately allowed her to be heard and approved. That extra step made all the difference."



"Because she was released without any of her original paperwork, they are unable to fly home. Instead, they must drive back to Minnesota while we work urgently to locate her documents, phone, and personal belongings (including jewelry). We’ve been told these items were not in El Paso and not in New Mexico, and authorities are now checking Fort Snelling, where she was originally detained. We are hopeful they will be found.

She has also been required to wear an ankle monitor, for reasons that remain unclear—especially given that she is not a flight risk and has no criminal history. We’ve been told it is for tracking purposes. Our lawyers will fight this inhumane act.

She now has a Master Immigration Hearing scheduled, which means we must enter into a new phase of legal representation and a different contract with our attorneys."

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Feb 11 2026 11:24am
I don't think the people who wanted mass deportations are going to be fooled; they will be disappointed, and that might be a bad thing for long-term stability - I largely vibe with the narrative that most of the populist uprising in the West is tied to mass immigration (in the US's case, illegal immigration). I do, however, believe the average American was more concerned with securing the border and deporting violent illegals than with the promised mass deportations. Moving forward, it's going to be a question of whether or not ICE has gone too far for those voters imo


Agreed. The average American definitely places greater importance on the deportation of dangerous criminals and on securing the border than on the deportation of illegal aliens who have behaved well and non-criminally since arriving in the US.

The big issue is that amnesty for this group would create a massive precedent and incentive for further illegal immigration. Hence, amnesty is a political nonstarter unless the average voter can be sure that it truly is a one-off and that the border will remain tightly controlled in the future. And this confindence cannot exist until there is a broad, society-wide consensus that illegal immigration is not tolerable and that the floodgates shall remain shut. We're lightyears away from this kind of political consensus; on the contrary, Democrats are more or less openly embracing wide-open borders and continue to trend further to the left on the issue. Plus, the Republican donor class also lowkey favors mass immigration, so voters can't fully trust the GOP on the issue either.

So as a result, the immigration issue is currently stuck in a cycle of pernicious polarization in which the two sides of the debate cannot meet in the middle because the required trust doesn't exist and instead radicalize each other.
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Feb 11 2026 11:34am
i consider the idea that minnesota is focused on because of all the concentrated wealth amassed by fraud. winner takes all
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Feb 11 2026 11:36am
i consider the idea that minnesota is focused on because of all the concentrated wealth amassed by fraud. winner takes all


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Minnesota is media focused because of the fatalities. 100,000 people were detained in January alone by ICE. As more and more fatalities arise throughout the country and more horror stories are heard, people will forget about Minnesota. ICE is not especially in Minnesota, its in every state and the same thing is happening in every state.

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Feb 12 2026 05:53am
Agreed. The average American definitely places greater importance on the deportation of dangerous criminals and on securing the border than on the deportation of illegal aliens who have behaved well and non-criminally since arriving in the US.

The big issue is that amnesty for this group would create a massive precedent and incentive for further illegal immigration. Hence, amnesty is a political nonstarter unless the average voter can be sure that it truly is a one-off and that the border will remain tightly controlled in the future. And this confindence cannot exist until there is a broad, society-wide consensus that illegal immigration is not tolerable and that the floodgates shall remain shut. We're lightyears away from this kind of political consensus; on the contrary, Democrats are more or less openly embracing wide-open borders and continue to trend further to the left on the issue. Plus, the Republican donor class also lowkey favors mass immigration, so voters can't fully trust the GOP on the issue either.

So as a result, the immigration issue is currently stuck in a cycle of pernicious polarization in which the two sides of the debate cannot meet in the middle because the required trust doesn't exist and instead radicalize each other.


I would probably describe it as a profound shortsightedness by the people who would self-identify as left-leaning, insofar as they believed it was only extremists, racists, etc., that were against their policies like generous refugee programs, open borders, and the like. When they were unable to secure the legislative reforms to the law they desired, those groups opted to subvert the law and achieve their goals by other means, believing everyone would eventually get on board. In doing so, they've invoked what may be a fatal backlash against their entire political project and, seemingly, any future compromise to change the law. It's all rather ironic: in their grand efforts to reduce harm by any means necessary, their actions have greatly exacerbated it.
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Feb 12 2026 08:49am
All this ICE stuff is just a distraction anyway. I wish Canada had a program like ICE. Maybe then we wouldn't have a gorjillion Indians shitting up the roads and killing the locals with their terrible driving.
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Feb 12 2026 08:53am
All this ICE stuff is just a distraction anyway. I wish Canada had a program like ICE. Maybe then we wouldn't have a gorjillion Indians shitting up the roads and killing the locals with their terrible driving.


Canada requires significantly stricter vetting of immigration. Its problem is it just willingly allows mass immigration. We don't have a borders to developing country that is a pathway for third world countries.

When you can get away with setting up 100s of immigration agency companies because they all know how to play the game and easily get people and their entire families over, you know you have a problem and that's what we allowed in Canada. There's streets of them in Ontario, agency after agency.

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