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Feb 11 2026 11:17pm
The answer is not going to change. I have a much deeper concern based on what you have been saying. For you it seems that unless every single detail is explicitly stated then it's impossible to interpret.

I'm going to give you a challenge. It's not explicitly stated here but can you think of what might have happened next for the leper?

Matthew 8:1-4 ESV

When he came down from the mountain, great crowds followed him. And behold, a leper came to him and knelt before him, saying, “Lord, if you will, you can make me clean.” And Jesus stretched out his hand and touched him, saying, “I will; be clean.” And immediately his leprosy was cleansed. And Jesus said to him, “See that you say nothing to anyone, but go, show yourself to the priest and offer the gift that Moses commanded, for a proof to them.”


If there is magic or major contradictions are involved then every detail matters. I am not going to ask how did jesus aquired a few loaves of bread but I will inquire how he multiplied those loaves to feed thousands of people.

And your explanation is merely a guess. It would be nice for the bible to just add a simple "Jacob was a half brother to Heli" to remove any doubt or the need to perform mental gymnastics. Because to an objective observer it reads like distinct contradictions. And suggests it was a work of conniving men who forgot to cover their tracks when they were fabricating this eleborate story.

In the story of a leper. I would say the leper is an illiterate peasant who doesn't know how to ask a question because thats more of a statement. A question would be something along the lines " jesus can you make me clean please?"
Then jesus did his magic. Just like in a Disney movie with a flick of his hand leprosy was gone. Then he told him to make a gift (which is sacrifice some animals as proof)

My bullshit detector is flashing red.
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Feb 12 2026 01:13am
If there is magic or major contradictions are involved then every detail matters. I am not going to ask how did jesus aquired a few loaves of bread but I will inquire how he multiplied those loaves to feed thousands of people.

And your explanation is merely a guess. It would be nice for the bible to just add a simple "Jacob was a half brother to Heli" to remove any doubt or the need to perform mental gymnastics. Because to an objective observer it reads like distinct contradictions. And suggests it was a work of conniving men who forgot to cover their tracks when they were fabricating this eleborate story.

In the story of a leper. I would say the leper is an illiterate peasant who doesn't know how to ask a question because thats more of a statement. A question would be something along the lines " jesus can you make me clean please?"
Then jesus did his magic. Just like in a Disney movie with a flick of his hand leprosy was gone. Then he told him to make a gift (which is sacrifice some animals as proof)

My bullshit detector is flashing red.


OMG you couldn't even answer something as simple as the leper likely went to the priest as instructed? This is why nobody can take you seriously. You aren't even good at what you are trying to do.
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Feb 12 2026 03:54am
OMG you couldn't even answer something as simple as the leper likely went to the priest as instructed? This is why nobody can take you seriously. You aren't even good at what you are trying to do.


You asked me what might have happened next to the leper.
Nothing in real life because magic isn't real. But withing the context of this fictitious story we can only assume he did as instructed. That is neither remarkable or controversial in any way.

Incidentally this proves my point when the narrative is convenient you follow the simplest most straightforward conclusion. When the bible provides a contradiction or magic you begin reaching for an elaborate explanation instead of arriving at the simplest solution that it's a contradiction.
This is a confirmation bias at work.

One of my favorite examples is how did Noah fit millions/billions of animals all around planet into a boat. Can you explain the logistics there?
Because without some serious mental gymnastics maths isn't mathing. I always enjoy Christians appologists sweat trying to explain their way out of that one.
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Feb 12 2026 07:17am
You asked me what might have happened next to the leper.
Nothing in real life because magic isn't real. But withing the context of this fictitious story we can only assume he did as instructed. That is neither remarkable or controversial in any way.

Incidentally this proves my point when the narrative is convenient you follow the simplest most straightforward conclusion. When the bible provides a contradiction or magic you begin reaching for an elaborate explanation instead of arriving at the simplest solution that it's a contradiction.
This is a confirmation bias at work.

One of my favorite examples is how did Noah fit millions/billions of animals all around planet into a boat. Can you explain the logistics there?
Because without some serious mental gymnastics maths isn't mathing. I always enjoy Christians appologists sweat trying to explain their way out of that one.


You were already explained how Noah did this and the issue again is you misunderstanding the text and by applying a modern worldview. I'll break it down again.

God instructed Noah to bring two of every “kind” of land animal, and seven pairs of certain clean animals (Genesis 6–7).

The term “kind” in Hebrew means "min", not modern biological “species.”

Noah did not take millions of species. He took representatives of broader categories (“kinds”). For example: Instead of every dog breed, just two wolf-like ancestors. Instead of every cat species, two ancestral cats. After the flood, animals diversified into today’s species. Not everything animal would of been full grown, juvenile animals are much smaller in size and require a less amount of food.

Ark Dimensions (Genesis 6:15)

Length: 300 cubits. Width: 50 cubits. Height: 30 cubits. A cubit is 18 inches (0.45 m). That gives Length: 450 ft (137 m). Width: 75 ft (23 m) and Height: 45 ft (14 m).

Total Volume 450×75×45=1,518,750 cubic feet is about 43,000 cubic meters. Roughly equal to 522 modern railroad boxcars in volume.

The ark had 3 decks. 450×75×3=101,250 square feet. That’s about the size of a large warehouse. 1,500–2,000 “kinds” of animals doubled for pairs. Total estimate: 6,000–16,000 animals

16,000 animals as a high-end estimate. Most animals are small. 90% of animal species are smaller than sheep. Many are rodents, birds, reptiles. A sheep requires about 10–15 square feet of stall space. Let’s assume 12 sq ft per animal.

16,000×12=192,000sq ft. Here's where addone would say, "But the ark only had 101,250 sq ft total deck space."

If average animal volume equals roughly 3 cubic feet (many small animals, some large ones), then:

16,000×3=48,000 cubic feet
Ark total volume: 1,518,750 cubic feet. Animals would occupy only about 3–4% of total volume.

That leaves food storage, waste, space for Noah's family, and walkways.

Math doesn't lie. There's many videos giving this demonstration too.

God is amazing.

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Feb 12 2026 07:43am
It is obviously a made up story from collections of writings with many unknown unverified authors.


No shit Sherlock, all religions are fake, there is no higher being. Anyone saying otherwise, they're stupid.
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Feb 12 2026 08:03am
No shit Sherlock, all religions are fake, there is no higher being. Anyone saying otherwise, they're stupid.


What's your explanation of how the very first thing came to be?
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Feb 12 2026 08:29am
Me, I created everything. I am god. Prove me wrong.
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Feb 12 2026 09:15am
Me, I created everything. I am god. Prove me wrong.


So you don't have an answer?
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Feb 12 2026 09:23am
I just told you, it's me.
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Feb 12 2026 09:44am
I just told you, it's me.


So no, got it.

2 Thessalonians 2:3–4

“Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed… who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god… so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.”

Matthew 24:24

“For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.”

Isaiah 42:8

“I am the LORD; that is my name; my glory I give to no other.”

Ezekiel 28:2

“Because your heart is proud, and you have said, ‘I am a god…’ yet you are but a man, and no god.”

Deuteronomy 6:4

“Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.”

This post was edited by D_urRRR on Feb 12 2026 09:44am
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