Borders, airspace, sea access are all unequivocably part of external sovereignty. Israel continuing to conduct occasional military operations in Gaza is imho not a contradiction of their sovereignty over internal affairs, it's justified on self-defense grounds, similar to how the US attacked Afghanistan for having accommodated Al Quaeda. Israel controlled Gaza's utilities because Gaza couldn't provide these things for itself and fully relied on Israel.

The one point I'll concede is the population registry - that one clearly falls under "internal affairs". But then again: Gaza kept housing terrorists who continuously attacked Israel, so they had a damn compelling reason to want to keep track of Gaza's population.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 10 2026 02:22pm

Basically, one can argue that Israel’s repeated use of force prevented worse attacks, but that’s a counterfactual that’s never been tested - because for decades Israel has regularly used overwhelming violence, killing Palestinians in the tens of thousands. Claiming that restraint would have failed is speculation, not evidence, since restraint was never actually tried.

This post was edited by ferdia on Feb 10 2026 02:34pm

Restraint did fail thats a fact not speculation

It's also spelled "the doctrine of every military leader in history" lol Alexander the Great did this. The Allies did this in ww2. This is how war works and has always worked.

I've told you guys this before, you don't seem to be able to wrap your heads around it.

War is hell.

i love how confident you are about being wrong, solid work

Alright. Why do you think I am wrong?

Are you saying that, for example, the Allies did not target German civilian infrastructure and economic interests?

When did Israel not kick ppl out of their homes? they have been doing it since the foundation of the state.
Restraint is a relative term. I can agree that Israel has shown Gaza, the West Bank and Iran, Syria, Lebanon, etc a degree of restraint, but its all relative.

This post was edited by ferdia on Feb 10 2026 03:55pm

No no ofc not. they also didn't unprovokenly occupy them for 80 years and they are also provoked into taking more settlements in the west bank. Israel is innocent of all charges.

But just war waged by Germany is the "darkest time in history". Meanwhile jews poison wells and slaughter infants.

Make up your mind. For you it seems every crime done by jews is permitted, but every action in accordance with mutually agreed upon laws of war is not permitted if its done by goyim.

This post was edited by El1te on Feb 11 2026 01:20am

70,000 people dead in Gaza is bad, I don't like it.

70,000,000 dead is worse, obviously, which is the thing you're defending...

As I said, war is hell. If you're still having trouble understanding what that means, you should know that hell is bad.

This post was edited by Shadowoffury on Feb 11 2026 01:51am