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Feb 9 2026 06:30pm
Thats a very broad non specific answer that doesn't even address the question.
I asked you what would happen if you stopped believing in magic god not about your past.

Are you suggesting you have nothing to live for if religion is taken away from you? Like what do you imagine would happen if today you decided I am not going to believe in the wizard any longer are you going to turn into a criminal and do hard drugs? Give me specifics here.


I did address your question...

Before I lived by my flesh, had hate in my heart, and watched a life from God cause a lot of destruction in my childhood growing up. I never did drugs and have never drank alcohol and have never been in jail. I've had great success in business after graduating high school. After giving my life to the lord I have changed my life around completely. I understand my role as a husband, as a father, as a friend, and as a stranger.

If I "stopped believing" in God I would simply be in a state of separation from him living according to my flesh. From selfless to selfish, so on and so forth. My initial point is I now know both sides and no I am not living out my purpose away from God.

The very ways you describe God you can't back up or show from his word. He's not this "wi,and sky daddy zapping unbelievers" none of that is in the bible.

There are people separate from God that make good choices. Not every person separate from God turns out to be this "criminal doing hard drugs".

John 14:6: Explicitly states Jesus is the only way to the Father.

John 3:16: States that whoever believes in the Son will have eternal life.

John 17:3: Defines eternal life as knowing the only true God and Jesus Christ.

Romans 10:9: Emphasizes that confessing Jesus as Lord and believing in his resurrection leads to salvation.

Matthew 7:21-23: Highlights that merely calling Jesus "Lord" is not enough; one must have a true relationship with Him, as Jesus warns some, "I never knew you".

People doing good works to glorify flesh is just not our purpose in life. That is not the life I want to live for. Doing the works of the father to glorify him and lead his children to him, now that is what it's all about.

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Feb 9 2026 07:16pm
It is obviously a made up story from collections of writings with many unknown unverified authors. Translated and curated by several councils of men who decided what is to be included or excluded. Mainly so it's more palatable for an average pleb in order to control them.

If you step back and look at it as a whole it is nothing more then a bedtime story for adults to behave in a certain manner. It is one of many (thousands) of religions. Just about everyone on the planet had mythological story of some kind that they shared around the campfire. Everyone thinks theirs is the best and the one true religion, just like hardcore sports fans cheer for their home team.
As an outsider who isn't affiliated with any of these archaic dogmas it is obvious that none of them are the best or real. Observing here people in pard you will notice there is a distinct tribal conflict between left vs right.

The purpose of this thread is to explore the contradictions, make light of the magical story and to hopefully bring awareness to the religious fans who seem to be under the spell that their invisible dad is real.

Lets begin!


does all religions are fake or only christianity ?

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Feb 9 2026 10:00pm
Baseless claims with 0 proof as usual.

"The bible using addone to prove that its true" what in tarnation? :rofl:

God is so powerful he forgot to exist and this thread has a very good effect on showing people how fake your religion is. Don't be mad, be happy that there are now more people who will never fall for your trickery.


Baseless? This thread and all you posted is a perfect example. When I started posting about the Genealogy you dodged and I had to remind you on multiple occasions to respond. Even after all was said and done that didn't make a change did it? I told you time again that everything you brought to this thread are all someone else's work. Since we are not arguing you, there is no convincing you.

I also said that we cannot move any further until you understand the doctrine of sin. You really struggle to understand that. You cannot understand without the Holy Spirit.

When pressed you will either dodge or post memes. The Bible describes you perfectly as shown in these verses, proving its trustworthiness.

Go ahead and defend yourself in light of these verses:

Psalm 14:1-3 NIV.

The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good.
The LORD looks down from heaven on all mankind to see if there are any who understand, any who seek God.
All have turned away, all have become corrupt; there is no one who does good, not even one.



Romans 1:21-25 ESV

For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.

Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, vwho is blessed forever! Amen.
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Feb 9 2026 10:35pm
I did address your question...

Before I lived by my flesh, had hate in my heart, and watched a life from God cause a lot of destruction in my childhood growing up. I never did drugs and have never drank alcohol and have never been in jail. I've had great success in business after graduating high school. After giving my life to the lord I have changed my life around completely. I understand my role as a husband, as a father, as a friend, and as a stranger.

If I "stopped believing" in God I would simply be in a state of separation from him living according to my flesh. From selfless to selfish, so on and so forth. My initial point is I now know both sides and no I am not living out my purpose away from God.

The very ways you describe God you can't back up or show from his word. He's not this "wi,and sky daddy zapping unbelievers" none of that is in the bible.

There are people separate from God that make good choices. Not every person separate from God turns out to be this "criminal doing hard drugs".

John 14:6: Explicitly states Jesus is the only way to the Father.

John 3:16: States that whoever believes in the Son will have eternal life.

John 17:3: Defines eternal life as knowing the only true God and Jesus Christ.

Romans 10:9: Emphasizes that confessing Jesus as Lord and believing in his resurrection leads to salvation.

Matthew 7:21-23: Highlights that merely calling Jesus "Lord" is not enough; one must have a true relationship with Him, as Jesus warns some, "I never knew you".

People doing good works to glorify flesh is just not our purpose in life. That is not the life I want to live for. Doing the works of the father to glorify him and lead his children to him, now that is what it's all about.


Wtf does that even mean? Is this your euphemism for your uncle doing inappropriate things to you? Why can't you speak plainly? Or are you just playing your victim card here and blaming perfectly explainable things on god. "This bad thing happened therefore god angry."

You tell me you have had great success in business and were never in trouble with the law etc yet you turned your life around once you accepted jesus? Wtf? Does that mean you are no longer successful and do drugs instead? Because you aren't making any sense here. Wtf does it mean you understood your role?

So if you stopped believing you would become a selfish person? So basically you would never care for anyone or anything ever again? Do you imagine you are incapable of putting your self interests before your family? For example will you go to a nearest strip club and spend your childrens college fund to satisfy your urges instead? Is that what you mean by living according to your flesh? Are you not mature enough to be a responsible adult and requires some ancient book to spell it out for you to not kill or steal?
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Feb 9 2026 11:20pm
Baseless? This thread and all you posted is a perfect example. When I started posting about the Genealogy you dodged and I had to remind you on multiple occasions to respond. Even after all was said and done that didn't make a change did it? I told you time again that everything you brought to this thread are all someone else's work. Since we are not arguing you, there is no convincing you.

I also said that we cannot move any further until you understand the doctrine of sin. You really struggle to understand that. You cannot understand without the Holy Spirit.

When pressed you will either dodge or post memes. The Bible describes you perfectly as shown in these verses, proving its trustworthiness.

Go ahead and defend yourself in light of these verses:

Psalm 14:1-3 NIV.

The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good.
The LORD looks down from heaven on all mankind to see if there are any who understand, any who seek God.
All have turned away, all have become corrupt; there is no one who does good, not even one.



Romans 1:21-25 ESV

For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.

Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, vwho is blessed forever! Amen.


Yes your claims are baseless. No proof = no basis in reality
I responded to your genealogy claims yet you are still crying how I didn't respond immediately (even though I explained that I didn't have time). Still waiting for you to provide hard proof which I requested btw. Thats what scumbags/bad mannered people do. They want you to give and adhere to their line of questions while not reciprocating.
I told you before the source doesn't matter as long as the questions are valid yet you still crying. This is a classic genetic fallacy where the origin or source of the claim is used to dismiss the claim itself.

Why do I need to understand the doctrine of sin for you to be able provide proof of your god? Understanding is subjective based on beliefs, intuition and personal knowledge while proof is objective it's evidence that can be examined and evaluated by others.
One is independent of the other, this is a red herring.

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Feb 10 2026 04:49am
Wtf does that even mean? Is this your euphemism for your uncle doing inappropriate things to you? Why can't you speak plainly? Or are you just playing your victim card here and blaming perfectly explainable things on god. "This bad thing happened therefore god angry."

You tell me you have had great success in business and were never in trouble with the law etc yet you turned your life around once you accepted jesus? Wtf? Does that mean you are no longer successful and do drugs instead? Because you aren't making any sense here. Wtf does it mean you understood your role?

So if you stopped believing you would become a selfish person? So basically you would never care for anyone or anything ever again? Do you imagine you are incapable of putting your self interests before your family? For example will you go to a nearest strip club and spend your childrens college fund to satisfy your urges instead? Is that what you mean by living according to your flesh? Are you not mature enough to be a responsible adult and requires some ancient book to spell it out for you to not kill or steal?


You really have trouble applying critical thinking to things. You are so caught up in this blind hate you are all over the place.

Romans 8:5-6: "For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace"

We serve a higher purpose than the things of this world is my whole point. I don't blame God for anything bad that's happened in my life or the life of my family, but a life seperate from God it's easy to fall victim to these things.

I am speaking very plainly. I just refuse to share certain details with you. At no point have you been genuine. You have no open mind to be civil towards individuals that share a difference. Your entire goal has been to mock and make fun of the individuals that believe in something you don't.

Now had you come from a place of, "this is something I don't believe in because of xyz, but would love to hear from others on why they believe" and then respect them throughout the process our conversation would look different. You just aren't open to details. You hate God to the point you look down and hate on anyone that has him in their life and you don't see the problem with that.

This post was edited by D_urRRR on Feb 10 2026 04:50am
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Feb 10 2026 02:49pm
You really have trouble applying critical thinking to things. You are so caught up in this blind hate you are all over the place.

Romans 8:5-6: "For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace"

We serve a higher purpose than the things of this world is my whole point. I don't blame God for anything bad that's happened in my life or the life of my family, but a life seperate from God it's easy to fall victim to these things.

I am speaking very plainly. I just refuse to share certain details with you. At no point have you been genuine. You have no open mind to be civil towards individuals that share a difference. Your entire goal has been to mock and make fun of the individuals that believe in something you don't.

Now had you come from a place of, "this is something I don't believe in because of xyz, but would love to hear from others on why they believe" and then respect them throughout the process our conversation would look different. You just aren't open to details. You hate God to the point you look down and hate on anyone that has him in their life and you don't see the problem with that.


I asked you to speak plainly and clarify what you mean. Yet according to you "You just aren't open to details" also "I just refuse to share certain details with you" :rofl:
You tell me you were leading a successful life and not been in trouble with the law. Then you tell me you turned your life around. Meaning what exactly you became a failure instead?

Make it make sense

Ok sure thing bud.
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Feb 10 2026 03:39pm
I asked you to speak plainly and clarify what you mean. Yet according to you "You just aren't open to details" also "I just refuse to share certain details with you" :rofl:
You tell me you were leading a successful life and not been in trouble with the law. Then you tell me you turned your life around. Meaning what exactly you became a failure instead?

Make it make sense

Ok sure thing bud.


What do you not understand about living for myself vs living for others? Laying my life down to better the people around me vs me being selfish and only pleasing my own freshly desires.

It's a pretty easy concept to grasp in my opinion.

Lmk if you still have trouble understanding the difference.
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Feb 10 2026 06:13pm
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What do you not understand about living for myself vs living for others? Laying my life down to better the people around me vs me being selfish and only pleasing my own freshly desires.

It's a pretty easy concept to grasp in my opinion.

Lmk if you still have trouble understanding the difference.


Maybe ask chat gpt to summarize your convoluted and often contradictory waffle then.

So you are incapable of putting your self interests before others without a 2000 year old book telling you to not be selfish schmuck? Sounds like a skill issue.

I have no problem taking care of my dogs for example even if its inconvenient for me. I understand their needs and no one had to tell me. Figuired that shit on your own. If I had a family to take care of I would gladly lose sleep and even put my body on the line if it means they are safe. Thats my duty and the fact you didn't know that as a man tells me you are unfit to be a father.

You turn to religion to hold your limp hand because either you or your parents failed. Christianity offers generic common sense advice wrapped in fairy tales. Its useful in that regard but don't confuse it for being real.
Did you know there are solutions for just about every kind of problem or struggle there is without relying on worshipping invisible deities.
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Feb 10 2026 07:46pm
Maybe ask chat gpt to summarize your convoluted and often contradictory waffle then.

So you are incapable of putting your self interests before others without a 2000 year old book telling you to not be selfish schmuck? Sounds like a skill issue.

I have no problem taking care of my dogs for example even if its inconvenient for me. I understand their needs and no one had to tell me. Figuired that shit on your own. If I had a family to take care of I would gladly lose sleep and even put my body on the line if it means they are safe. Thats my duty and the fact you didn't know that as a man tells me you are unfit to be a father.

You turn to religion to hold your limp hand because either you or your parents failed. Christianity offers generic common sense advice wrapped in fairy tales. Its useful in that regard but don't confuse it for being real.
Did you know there are solutions for just about every kind of problem or struggle there is without relying on worshipping invisible deities.


I'm not using Ai for form an opinion. I'm very capable of forming my own opinions. Unlike you who has been 100% Ai for your "contradictions" and Facebook memes to mock a group of individuals.

Just because I didn't share details of my experiences growing up doesn't make me unfit to be a father. My wife and I are doing a great job raising our kids.

Again resorting to personal uncivilized attacks is a result of a hateful heart. I'll continue to love and care for others before me.

This post was edited by D_urRRR on Feb 10 2026 07:47pm
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