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Feb 5 2026 07:27pm
You seem to think that by clinging to empirical evidence as the proving grounds for everything makes you safely in the right. You also seem to think that everything is explainable by scientific measurements or collecting memory or data. What I’m challenging you on is what if there are things that exist beyond the plane in which science operates? Neuroscience, physics, and philosophy have been working on consciousness for thousands of years and have seen many scientific advances over the several booms in that timespan. They still can’t say this is where consciousness or experience resides.

I’d also add that you seem to think you have no faith. There is a degree of faith to believe that the universe is not as it is by intelligent design. There is a degree of faith to think that love is not really distinguishable from a box of chocolates if we go off of pure brain scans.


You have absolutely no clue what I am even talking about. Obviously. All you do is laying words in my mouth, when I clearly say something else.
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Whats the non-scientific basis for thought? Does the lack of explanation make the use of a word valid that we cant even define properly?


Been repeated a billion times. Consciousness/thought is a gift from God given freely to His creation, created in His image which is humanity. This very simple idea is understood by people of all flavours around the world

Your failure to understand this is purely your own irrational pride.

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Been repeated a billion times. Consciousness/thought is a gift from God given freely to His creation, created in His image which is humanity. This very simple idea is understood by people of all flavours around the world

Your failure to understand this is purely your own irrational pride.


Assumption, assumption, assumption - its funny to hear you on one side talk about how science cant figure it out but then just make a leap to god without anyone ever figuring anything out about it as well. A simple idea, yes thats what that is. A VERY simple idea. A simpleton idea you could say.

My failure to understand this...yeah...if you understand it, explain it. Dont be such a pretentious prick. If you accept god as the valid explanation for no reason at all, than please never ever lecture anyone about anything ever again because in that case one could also say its a natural occurance without giving any explanation at all.

Your god of the gaps is the weakest concept of all concepts. We dont know? Well must be god then. Laughable, really.

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Assumption, assumption, assumption - its funny to hear you on one side talk about how science cant figure it out but then just make a leap to god without anyone ever figuring anything out about it as well. A simple idea, yes thats what that is. A VERY simple idea. A simpleton idea you could say.

My failure to understand this...yeah...if you understand it, explain it. Dont be such a pretentious prick. If you accept god as the valid explanation for no reason at all, than please never ever lecture anyone about anything ever again because in that case one could also say its a natural occurance without giving any explanation at all.

Your god of the gaps is the weakest concept of all concepts. We dont know? Well must be god then. Laughable, really.


God is the necessary precondition for logic itself, you cannot justify logic, meaning, reason, truth, induction, or other necessary universal transcendentals without God. your worldview is incapable of justifying the logic it uses to deny His existence

you cannot justify science without God, as science relies on the regularity of nature or induction and your worldview can give no account or epistemic justification for induction

it's not a "god of the gaps" it's

a is the necessary precondition for b

b, therefore a

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Assumption, assumption, assumption - its funny to hear you on one side talk about how science cant figure it out but then just make a leap to god without anyone ever figuring anything out about it as well. A simple idea, yes thats what that is. A VERY simple idea. A simpleton idea you could say.

My failure to understand this...yeah...if you understand it, explain it. Dont be such a pretentious prick. If you accept god as the valid explanation for no reason at all, than please never ever lecture anyone about anything ever again because in that case one could also say its a natural occurance without giving any explanation at all.

Your god of the gaps is the weakest concept of all concepts. We dont know? Well must be god then. Laughable, really.


The only person leveling assumptions here is you, your projection is transparent. Thought itself is divine, man has been bestowed but a meager fraction of God's infinite wisdom. Only a philistine heathen ingrate fails to recognize and appreciate this gift we have received.

I'm not your teacher and this isn't a classroom, kids learn this stuff. Read a book, start with the Bible at Genesis 1.

"God of the gaps" is such an incredibly low IQ viewpoint that it can only be looked down on with contempt but I'll entertain. There are no gaps. God is the foundation for all existence and mechanisms of nature. Your example of lightning is simply man's discernment of the mechanism of just one example of nature, which as it turns out follows the same physicochemical laws as the rest of nature. If you take apart a watch, figure out how it ticks, do you then yell "Aha! This watch works by these mechanisms, therefore no one created it or designed it!"? No. Or at least, you shouldn't. Man's design and creation of machines and instruments is a microcosm of our limited wisdom - our machines are ridiculously crude when compared to God's greatest machine (life).
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Is every Muslim a pedphile or was it just mohammed
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God is the necessary precondition for logic itself, you cannot justify logic, meaning, reason, truth, induction, or other necessary universal transcendentals without God. your worldview is incapable of justifying the logic it uses to deny His existence

you cannot justify science without God, as science relies on the regularity of nature or induction and your worldview can give no account or epistemic justification for induction

it's not a "god of the gaps" it's

a is the necessary precondition for b

b, therefore a


What a load of nonsense, god is not needed to explain anything.
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Feb 6 2026 06:03pm
Is every Muslim a pedphile or was it just mohammed


can you cite the pedophilia?

we can cite as recently as 1700s America, where it was legal for men to marry and consummate marriage with 12 year old girls, sometimes as young as 9 years old. is that pedophilia for its time? this was normal across most of the world a few hundred years ago

even in the 1800s it was still ages 9-12 in many places of the world for marriage consent

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What a load of nonsense, god is not needed to explain anything.


this is not an argument, make an argument
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this is not an argument, make an argument


No argument needs to be made.

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