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Feb 3 2026 04:29pm
Correct me then, what is your belief?


See you are obsessed to fill in the unknown even if it means you have to lie.

This is why you use God as a gap filler. I simply let it remain a mystery.
My belief is supported by proof if there is insufficient proof I abstain from fabricating fairytales I just say at this time I don't know or couldn't tell you.

If there is sufficient proof my belief can be made available. I don't believe something first then seek proof after. That would be called blind faith.
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Feb 3 2026 05:17pm
See you are obsessed to fill in the unknown even if it means you have to lie.

This is why you use God as a gap filler. I simply let it remain a mystery.
My belief is supported by proof if there is insufficient proof I abstain from fabricating fairytales I just say at this time I don't know or couldn't tell you.

If there is sufficient proof my belief can be made available. I don't believe something first then seek proof after. That would be called blind faith.


Avoided the question again.

I'll ask again, what is your belief?
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Feb 3 2026 05:26pm
Avoided the question again.

I'll ask again, what is your belief?


I believe you are avoiding to provide physical proof for your imaginary magician by asking what my beliefs are instead.

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I believe you are avoiding to provide physical proof for your imaginary magician by asking what my beliefs are instead.


I have my proof that Jesus is real.

My relationship with him is great.

If you want to see just how real and amazing he is you'd pursue him and give your life to him.

Jesus will not force you to see him in physical form.

(2 Corinthians 5:7) For we live by faith, not by sight. (Hebrews 11:6) And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.

You will not convert anyone here out of Christianity with your Facebook memes and AI. Christianity is real, God is real, and the proof is in everything you see, you yourself are proof, and everything we see points to intelligent design.

You will continue to avoid talking about what you believe in for a reason.

The truth is you blame God for something in your life and this is your way of being rebellious towards him and living by your flesh.

I hope you seek Jesus and I pray for your salvation. It's clear you have no intention in using critical thinking and being open to other's and their beliefs. I continue to ask for yours because I'd love to explore why you believe in what you believe in, but you refuse to share. You have faith in something and it isn't from "physical evidence"
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I have my proof that Jesus is real.
My relationship with him is great.

If you want to see just how real and amazing he is you'd pursue him and give your life to him.

Jesus will not force you to see him in physical form.

(2 Corinthians 5:7) For we live by faith, not by sight. (Hebrews 11:6) And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.

You will not convert anyone here out of Christianity with your Facebook memes and AI. Christianity is real, God is real, and the proof is in everything you see, you yourself are proof, and everything we see points to intelligent design.

You will continue to avoid talking about what you believe in for a reason.

The truth is you blame God for something in your life and this is your way of being rebellious towards him and living by your flesh.

I hope you seek Jesus and I pray for your salvation. It's clear you have no intention in using critical thinking and being open to other's and their beliefs. I continue to ask for yours because I'd love to explore why you believe in what you believe in, but you refuse to share. You have faith in something and it isn't from "physical evidence"


I have proof ... and its to believe in him first, be in relationship with our invisible sky wizard like i am and to give your life. That's how it works in our cult. Accepting something before evidence is how we roll.

You can't convince us otherwise because we operate under an illogical reality if the bible told us 1+ 1 = 3 we would believe that without question. It doesn't matter if you show us proof or use logic. Bible>logic
Haha I am so smart let me change the subject and talk about your beliefs instead.

D_urRRR

:rofl: :rofl:

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Feb 3 2026 10:20pm
Oh no christian camp did the thing they claim they didn't do



https://allaboutlawyer.com/kanakuk-lawsuit-multiple-survivors-accuse-christian-camp-of-covering-up-serial-sexual-abuse-for-decades-new-cases-filed-2025/

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I had asked you a simple question of, in your mind, what you think would happen if God were to physically appear before you. You couldn't even answer that: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107619089&f=119&p=682051822

Whenever people say I take things at face value or take things at its word I have always responded with the many threads of the research I have done over the years, even more than a decade ago. When I present all of that nobody has ever been able to respond when I ask how I took things at face value?

Once again dating back to the other thread we're going to go through the same thing. Did you know that the problem isn't whether or not God exists? The problem is that you are rebellious against God. You hate him. You shake your fist at him.

You can read Exodus and see how involved God was when rescuing Israel. They were in the best possible position as they saw the 10 plagues, they had Moses and they were just rescued from Egypt. Even with all of that they still failed miserably in the desert. What hope could you possibly have with all the distractions of this world today?

Here is the Bible passage that will give you the most problems:

Colossians 1:15-18 NIV

The Supremacy of the Son of God

The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.

It terrifies you that, if you were to admit God is real, then you would also have to admit that Jesus is Lord of your life and has the Supremacy. Not only that but you would also have to deal with the fact that you are a sinner and that you are going to face Judgement on the day you die. You want so bad for all of this to be made up so that you don't face any consequences for the life you lived in rebellion towards God. Do you remember when I kept linking to frodo's first message? The very first thing he says is "Realize that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior". Let me link it to you again.

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=79750090&f=119&p=537769428

The first step we need to do with you is to make you realize that you are a sinner and in need of forgiveness.
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^addone

I had asked you a simple question of, in your mind, what you think would happen if God were to physically appear before you. You couldn't even answer that: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107619089&f=119&p=682051822

Whenever people say I take things at face value or take things at its word I have always responded with the many threads of the research I have done over the years, even more than a decade ago. When I present all of that nobody has ever been able to respond when I ask how I took things at face value?

Once again dating back to the other thread we're going to go through the same thing. Did you know that the problem isn't whether or not God exists? The problem is that you are rebellious against God. You hate him. You shake your fist at him.

You can read Exodus and see how involved God was when rescuing Israel. They were in the best possible position as they saw the 10 plagues, they had Moses and they were just rescued from Egypt. Even with all of that they still failed miserably in the desert. What hope could you possibly have with all the distractions of this world today?

Here is the Bible passage that will give you the most problems:

Colossians 1:15-18 NIV

The Supremacy of the Son of God

The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.

It terrifies you that, if you were to admit God is real, then you would also have to admit that Jesus is Lord of your life and has the Supremacy. Not only that but you would also have to deal with the fact that you are a sinner and that you are going to face Judgement on the day you die. You want so bad for all of this to be made up so that you don't face any consequences for the life you lived in rebellion towards God. Do you remember when I kept linking to frodo's first message? The very first thing he says is "Realize that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior". Let me link it to you again.

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=79750090&f=119&p=537769428

The first step we need to do with you is to make you realize that you are a sinner and in need of forgiveness.


You asked me why should god appear before me. I replied to make sure he isn't a scammer. To see if he is real and can do what he claims to do. He needs to provide ID, receipts, physical proof. Talk is cheap.
And you asked me what outcome that would achieve which is the same thing really. It would mean we wouldn't need to rely on words alone.

Either put up proof or shut up. Why are you not getting this? Did you fall down some stairs or what?

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You asked me why should god appear before me. I replied to make sure he isn't a scammer. To see if he is real and can do what he claims to do. He needs to provide ID, receipts, physical proof. Talk is cheap.
And you asked me what outcome that would achieve which is the same thing really. It would mean we wouldn't need to rely on words alone.

Either put up proof or shut up. Why are you not getting this? Did you fall down some stairs or what?


wouldnt you just tell yourself you gone mad or having a hallucination............or aliens trying to trick you

thats what the top antitheists are saying and they look pretty smug while they say it being proud of their "intellect".

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Feb 4 2026 04:55pm
How do you know there was nothing to begin with? Because some old book written by bronze age desert dwellers told you?

Nothing is a human theoretical concept. Even empty space which we used to consider empty and made of nothing isnt empty, science have shown that space is filled with very low density particles like hydrogen and helium atoms. Which only gives an appearance of being nothing.
If something always existed then life must also has existed. If life already existed then the concept of a creator is redundant.

Even a concept of a creator implies there was something/someone therefore there can never be nothing. And your entire argument falls apart a pile of leaves on a windy day.

Have fun coping you way out of that one.

https://imgur.com/03PkeQ9.jpeg


"If something always existed then life must also has existed."

what's the logic that if something always existed -> life must also have existed?

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