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Jan 26 2026 11:19pm
Simulation theory would be purely an atheist theory since the concept of sin or virtue is nonexistent

On the scientific front it fails the falsifiability criterion with flying colours
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Jan 27 2026 12:53am
Quote (El1te @ Jan 26 2026 09:19pm)
Simulation theory would be purely an atheist theory since the concept of sin or virtue is nonexistent

On the scientific front it fails the falsifiability criterion with flying colours


it would 100% be nihilistic, everything would be pointless and unknowable. it's very cringe when pop-sci people promote it, pseduo-scientific and weak philosophically
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Jan 27 2026 02:30am
Quote (majorblood @ Jan 26 2026 10:53pm)
it would 100% be nihilistic, everything would be pointless and unknowable. it's very cringe when pop-sci people promote it, pseduo-scientific and weak philosophically


It really is, it's not at all interesting, crackheads come up with more interesting musings on a daily basis
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Jan 27 2026 03:07am
Quote (majorblood @ Jan 26 2026 08:26pm)
when did I say you have to physically do something for it to be wrong? my point is about agency.

in the simulation theory, there is no "looking on a woman with lust" as a decision you made, because there is no agent capable of making decisions. if the person who made the simulation programmed it to determine that the NPC of ME is determined to be lustful there is no "wrongness" in my actions, as there is no sense of agency in "me" i am simply analogous to a rock floating in space determined by the laws of gravity.

there is no possibility of repentance in simulation theory, I cannot choose to change my wicked lustful heart and orient myself with God, I am simply a programmed NPC acting based on my programming.


what is your understanding of a simulation?


o i think i understand what your saying now?
it would be the material world thats a simulation (not us).
possibly a brain in a vat idea. receiving sensory input.
or as one person put it once. we are spiritual beings having a psychical/material experience.
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#525
Jan 27 2026 03:27am
Quote (El1te @ Jan 26 2026 09:19pm)
Simulation theory would be purely an atheist theory since the concept of sin or virtue is nonexistent

On the scientific front it fails the falsifiability criterion with flying colours


i remember simulation theory was introduced by 'atheists. resulting from perplexity of the "double split light experiment". since then i think the 'problems have been resolved.

what was funny (i cant find a reference) is some 'atheists were having a meeting about simulation theory one atheist now believing the construct/universe is a simulation said "we i guess that disproves God" lol and the rest of them turned to look at the dude. if the place is a simulation that would very much prove a creator.

any way? if it is a simulation and we are plugged into it. and if there is judgement you will be judged by what actions you do while your here whether you believe its a simulation or not.

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Jan 27 2026 05:42am
Quote (TiStuff @ Jan 27 2026 01:07am)
o i think i understand what your saying now?
it would be the material world thats a simulation (not us).
possibly a brain in a vat idea. receiving sensory input.
or as one person put it once. we are spiritual beings having a psychical/material experience.


no I don't mean that. simulation theory means we and our universe are not real, everything is a simulation by someone outside of the simulation (the programmer)

since we are not real and just code in a computer or NPCs in a story we cannot actually make decisions, everything is a determined outcome

the brain in the vat idea also makes the possibility of knowledge impossible, it's seperate but related to the simulation theory in a way

"or as one person put it once. we are spiritual beings having a psychical/material experience. " is a heresy, this is similar to gnosticism that the church had to defeat. this is very wrong, the body, soul, and spirit are all real and all good. we are not spirits simply experiencing a material existence

This post was edited by majorblood on Jan 27 2026 05:45am
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#527
Jan 27 2026 06:17am
Simulation or not, we are inside a perfect mathematical construct as light crystallized in the shadow of the true reality. It’s a paradox, real and unreal. Guess they called it maya back in the day. Thought forms, a dream inside the mind of something greater than us and beyond our comprehension. Completely ineffable, and to ponder the ineffability only drives the human mind to the edge of madness and blindedness
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Jan 27 2026 08:49am
Quote (Abyzma @ Jan 27 2026 04:17am)
Simulation or not, we are inside a perfect mathematical construct as light crystallized in the shadow of the true reality. It’s a paradox, real and unreal. Guess they called it maya back in the day. Thought forms, a dream inside the mind of something greater than us and beyond our comprehension. Completely ineffable, and to ponder the ineffability only drives the human mind to the edge of madness and blindedness

Quote (majorblood @ Jan 27 2026 03:42am)
no I don't mean that. simulation theory means we and our universe are not real, everything is a simulation by someone outside of the simulation (the programmer)

since we are not real and just code in a computer or NPCs in a story we cannot actually make decisions, everything is a determined outcome

the brain in the vat idea also makes the possibility of knowledge impossible, it's seperate but related to the simulation theory in a way

"or as one person put it once. we are spiritual beings having a psychical/material experience. " is a heresy, this is similar to gnosticism that the church had to defeat. this is very wrong, the body, soul, and spirit are all real and all good. we are not spirits simply experiencing a material existence


i simply have a different concept of what a simulation would be like

Quote (Abyzma @ Jan 27 2026 04:17am)
Simulation or not, we are inside a perfect mathematical construct as light crystallized in the shadow of the true reality. It’s a paradox, real and unreal. Guess they called it maya back in the day. Thought forms, a dream inside the mind of something greater than us and beyond our comprehension. Completely ineffable, and to ponder the ineffability only drives the human mind to the edge of madness and blindedness


some would call it "the 4am question" :)
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#529
Jan 27 2026 09:22am
Quote (TiStuff @ Jan 27 2026 07:49am)
i simply have a different concept of what a simulation would be like



some would call it "the 4am question" :)


Indeed, only to find out the truth can only be shown
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Jan 27 2026 11:19am
Quote (Abyzma @ Jan 27 2026 04:17am)
Simulation or not, we are inside a perfect mathematical construct as light crystallized in the shadow of the true reality. It’s a paradox, real and unreal. Guess they called it maya back in the day. Thought forms, a dream inside the mind of something greater than us and beyond our comprehension. Completely ineffable, and to ponder the ineffability only drives the human mind to the edge of madness and blindedness


based on what? God created a real creation, noit an 'unreal' one
Quote (TiStuff @ Jan 27 2026 06:49am)
i simply have a different concept of what a simulation would be like



some would call it "the 4am question" :)


explain it

This post was edited by majorblood on Jan 27 2026 11:20am
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