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Jan 25 2026 08:14am
Wild hoops you have to jump through as a diehard republican supporter.
Trump tweeted "HE HAD A GUN, ONLY CRIMINALS CARRY GUNS ON OUR STREETS"
How you fucks jump from "we can't have more gun laws because something something constitution" to "he was legally carrying a gun, so if he steps on the road near an ice agent, never touches the gun, he can be pistol whipped and executed without recourse"


They're pretty averaged sized hoops for me as a lifelong registered democrat. You should see me at the caucus, or at least until they discontinued them
I have fun with people like you, because I get to explain to you how you read a fake tweet that a troll created to imitate Trump and calmly show you that you read some disinformation and didn't realize it was faked. EX;
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2026/01/fact-check-trump-truth-social-only-criminals-carry-guns-on-our-streets.html
But I do really like to shill that line about 'we can't have more gun laws because something something constitution'. That's what it means to have a constitution. Laws that infringe on the right to keep and bear arms are unconstitutional. Don't like it? Change the constitution.
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Jan 25 2026 09:01am
They're pretty averaged sized hoops for me as a lifelong registered democrat. You should see me at the caucus, or at least until they discontinued them
I have fun with people like you, because I get to explain to you how you read a fake tweet that a troll created to imitate Trump and calmly show you that you read some disinformation and didn't realize it was faked. EX;
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2026/01/fact-check-trump-truth-social-only-criminals-carry-guns-on-our-streets.html
But I do really like to shill that line about 'we can't have more gun laws because something something constitution'. That's what it means to have a constitution. Laws that infringe on the right to keep and bear arms are unconstitutional. Don't like it? Change the constitution.


Regardless of the tweets authenticity, that does seem to be your stance and Noem's

He had a gun, near ice agents...=the killing is justified.

Shouldn't have been protesting.
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Jan 25 2026 09:20am
Regardless of the tweets authenticity, that does seem to be your stance and Noem's

He had a gun, near ice agents...=the killing is justified.

Shouldn't have been protesting.


Ignore these idiots.

They will twist anything to make it fit their narrative.
Jan 25 2026 09:28am
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Jan 25 2026 10:00am
Regardless of the tweets authenticity, that does seem to be your stance and Noem's
He had a gun, near ice agents...=the killing is justified.
Shouldn't have been protesting.


In the US senate after the civil war they invented a rule that you can't impugn the motives of other members, because it just degenerates debate into pointless bickering and in the senate's case, fisticuffs. I don't think they'd ever dreamed of a need in a future society for a rule where you can't go around inventing fake beliefs and statements for people who never said such a thing. Its one thing to accuse Trump of being a filthy liar, its another thing to just invent tweets he never posted and argue against them. I don't see the need to take his place and argue against some premise you invented for me, either. I believe the proper response is to say "Fake news" lmao

The intent doesn't seem relevant given the mechanics of the incident. If some variables were changed like gun being brandished, then yes. Even if he was a crazy person, every American is free to hold their own views but not act out per laws. If he was obstructing the road, he should not have been killed for it, especially with weapons not brandished and being disarmed.
You said a long time ago it seems impossible for the left to realize they are swinging their pendulum to far, or something along those lines.
Is it possible for the right to realize the same here?


Every police shooting goes through these same motions. The actions of the guy who got shot don't merit being killed, its not something you earn, its a question of the necessity and reasonable belief someone is in immediate mortal peril and justification to defend themselves.
Pretti's actions and choices only serve to explain how he got himself in that situation and faced a predictable outcome, largely of his own doing, just like Renee Good's case. Neither committed a crime punishable by the death penalty, both put themselves into harms way by harassing federal agents
In Good's case her reckless actions and disregard for the safety of those around her created a clear potentially lethal threat to the officer who shot her, and in Pretti's case it sure looks like his own gun betrayed him and caused the gunshot that provoked a lethal response

What is the right doing here? A major escalation of.... federal agents enforcing the law. Not even to its fullest extent, not even doing dragnets to sweep up illegal aliens, but simply targeting convicted criminals and arresting them for deportation.
What is the left doing here? Biting people's fingers off. Putting up barricades and burning mattresses. Swarming and brawling with law enforcement officers. Stalking, harassing, attacking, threatening, ramming, etc.
The pendulum hasn't even started to swing back. The MSM made a big controversy out of the attempts by ICE to reunite a 5 year old child abandoned by her parents. If they were really acting like stormtroopers they'd be charging into crowds killing people indiscriminately like the Peterloo massacre.

Instead what we've got is passive aggressive militancy leading to deaths. Someone gets into the face officers and provokes a confrontation and then plays the victim when it comes to blows, even if its a mistake or their own fault.
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Jan 25 2026 11:05am
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Jan 25 2026 12:02pm
If government agents can murder you for having a holstered pistol with a legal carry permit... then you don't have the right to bear arms.

I don't care if you subscribe to the left or right the fact that citizens are being murdered by government agencies should be very concerning to you and if it's not than your part of the problem.. trying to justify this shows your delusions... It's bigger than a political issue at this point
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Jan 25 2026 12:10pm
If government agents can murder you for having a holstered pistol with a legal carry permit... then you don't have the right to bear arms.

I don't care if you subscribe to the left or right the fact that citizens are being murdered by government agencies should be very concerning to you and if it's not than your part of the problem.. trying to justify this shows your delusions... It's bigger than a political issue at this point


Lets say the government agents hadn't grabbed his gun at all, but were brawling with him and his gun misfired while still in his waistband and blew a whole through his crotch and he bled to death, would it still be "murdered by government agents"?
Deaths by freak accidents and misadventure aren't murders, and the agents didn't kill him for having a holstered pistol with a legal carry permit, they killed him for having a malfunctioning overpriced piece of shit that can turn your nuts into pecan pie with the slightest nudge
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Jan 25 2026 12:20pm
If government agents can murder you for having a holstered pistol with a legal carry permit... then you don't have the right to bear arms.

I don't care if you subscribe to the left or right the fact that citizens are being murdered by government agencies should be very concerning to you and if it's not than your part of the problem.. trying to justify this shows your delusions... It's bigger than a political issue at this point


They killed him because over and over they show they prioritize aggression and are grossly incompetent.

America down this path will only continue to become more of a broken polarized cesspool spurred on by those in power that want it that way. Look at the gov't response. Blatant lies to everyone's faces when video exists on this incident rather than anytype of middle ground.

Hatred is blinding, you can strip as many rights as you want as long as you can get people hating one another. Look at the first incident in this thread, both opposing sides of government rather than meeting in the middle and calming things choose the exact opposite of good course. Now this, this ones worse, and its far worse from the Fed side this time.

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Jan 25 2026 12:25pm
They killed him because over and over they show they prioritize aggression and are grossly incompetent.


The training is a huge concern across most law enforcement agencies. Average ICE agent has 8 weeks of training. Average US LEO has 21 weeks.

Such a low bar for immunity. But liability cost blah blah.
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