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Jan 25 2026 12:49am
what you think about this (what science challenges scripture?)

molecular constructs inside cells moving with purpose despite lacking any kind of nervous system that could result in some kind of thought process? these molecular constructs (made up of some molecules) but they move with purpose. they should be inanimate?

some people believe we live in a simulation. this would support that idea?

what i share here i have never heard anyone mention this. just one day it came to my mind. it shouldnt be happening.
i have brought it up on occasion with people internet and irl (in real life) no one has ever offered a clue, not even people claiming to have biology degrees. they all just get real quiet :)

@3:27 "NADH" "molecular construct" moving with purpose. flying around performing specific tasks
Electron transport chain


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agree. I've read the Old Testament when I was a kid and my parents thought I am religious turns out I am just using them like a Bedtime story to read to entertain me.
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agree. I've read the Old Testament when I was a kid and my parents thought I am religious turns out I am just using them like a Bedtime story to read to entertain me.


you need to read new testament
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Jan 25 2026 05:26am
what you think about this (what science challenges scripture?)

molecular constructs inside cells moving with purpose despite lacking any kind of nervous system that could result in some kind of thought process? these molecular constructs (made up of some molecules) but they move with purpose. they should be inanimate?

some people believe we live in a simulation. this would support that idea?

what i share here i have never heard anyone mention this. just one day it came to my mind. it shouldnt be happening.
i have brought it up on occasion with people internet and irl (in real life) no one has ever offered a clue, not even people claiming to have biology degrees. they all just get real quiet :)

@3:27 "NADH" "molecular construct" moving with purpose. flying around performing specific tasks
Electron transport chain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQmTKxI4Wn4


what relevance would living in a simulation have to do with this? typically 'simulation theory' makes the possibility of knowledge impossible, what do you mean by us living in a simulation?

knowledge = justified true belief, if simulation theory were true everyone would be a determined programmed person or an npc with no capability of free action, no true agency. I could be determined to have true "belief" and you determined to half false "belief" but neither of our "beliefs" are knowledge as without the ability to reason we lack the capability to "justify" our beliefs, it's simply determined. It's like a calculator can display the output of 5*5 = 25 but it doesn't actually "know" 5*5 = 25, it's simply a determined output.

therefore simulation theory is a waste of time to think about, if true it is impossible to know and we no longer have agency anyway so morality, purpose, etc completely become impossible. it's a form of nihilism.

for the biology, this is physics and chemistry at work (specifically brownian motion and chemistry), it's like asking "how does rain know to fall to the ground?" or "how do magnets know to attract or repel?" the cells don't have intelligence, the God who created the laws of physics does.

a deeper question is, is there teleology to the laws of physics themselves? I would argue yes as the world is not dysteleological because it is designed by God.

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what relevance would living in a simulation have to do with this? typically 'simulation theory' makes the possibility of knowledge impossible, what do you mean by us living in a simulation?

knowledge = justified true belief, if simulation theory were true everyone would be a determined programmed person or an npc with no capability of free action, no true agency. I could be determined to have true "belief" and you determined to half false "belief" but neither of our "beliefs" are knowledge as without the ability to reason we lack the capability to "justify" our beliefs, it's simply determined. It's like a calculator can display the output of 5*5 = 25 but it doesn't actually "know" 5*5 = 25, it's simply a determined output.

therefore simulation theory is a waste of time to think about, if true it is impossible to know and we no longer have agency anyway so morality, purpose, etc completely become impossible. it's a form of nihilism.

for the biology, this is physics and chemistry at work (specifically brownian motion and chemistry), it's like asking "how does rain know to fall to the ground?" or "how do magnets know to attract or repel?" the cells don't have intelligence, the God who created the laws of physics does.

a deeper question is, is there teleology to the laws of physics themselves? I would argue yes as the world is not dysteleological because it is designed by God.


For now we see through a glass, darkly

i dont think it would make a difference. the purpose of the journey would remain the same.
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you need to read new testament


nah New testament is lame. Old testament is much more fun to read with genocides, incest and insane miracles
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nah New testament is lame. Old testament is much more fun to read with genocides, incest and insane miracles


ya, man in a fallen condition in need of a savior, narrative.
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Jan 25 2026 10:43am
For now we see through a glass, darkly

i dont think it would make a difference. the purpose of the journey would remain the same.


the bible quote assumes there is a "who" to look through the glass, there is no "who" choosing to look in simulation theory, it's a determined action of an npc.

there would be no purpose at all for humans under simulation theory because we wouldn't actually be people capable of choices, it would make literally all of the difference.
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here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZmQoamSGg4&t=1s


all the evidence you need

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I am well aware that using a bible to prove the bible is circular logic but in this very particular instance we are trying to clarify the lineage within the context of the bible itself. I am asking does the bible itself spell it out that Heli and Jacob were brothers or 1/2 brothers or you just conveniently assuming that in order to make your explanation work?


Just point out chapter and verse or say you are trying to fill in the inconstencies with your imagination? Because I only see 2 seperate contradictory accounts from my end.


Let's work backwards like Luke does.

Matthew 1:18 ESV

"Now the birth of Jesus Christ took place in this way. When his mother Mary had been betrothed to Joseph, before they came together she was found to be with child from the Holy Spirit."

Mary is Betrothed to Joseph.

Luke 3:23 ESV

Jesus, when he began his ministry, was about thirty years of age, being the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Heli.

The key phrase is "as was supposed" with Joseph being the son of Heli. Joseph is betrothed to marry Heli's daughter, Mary. Joseph bears the name of Heli so his name will not be blotted out of Israel.

Deuteronomy 25:5-6 ESV

5 “If brothers dwell together, and one of them dies and has no son, the wife of the dead man shall not be married outside the family to a stranger. Her husband’s brother shall go in to her and take her as his wife and perform the duty of a husband’s brother to her. 6And the first son whom she bears shall succeed to the name of his dead brother, that his name may not be blotted out of Israel.

Brothers or Half Brothers, this law still applied to them. When we investigate, we apply critical thinking and so we can answer questions outside of the passage.

I suggest you read the first 5 books of the Old Testament to understand the Law because much of the New Testament will reference the Old Testament with the assumption that the reader will know the reference or at least go and investigate.
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