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Jan 24 2026 07:55pm
No one waived a gun around.

And two I agree. There's no civil uprising in the states coming and why I routinely argue on here it's some stupid fantasy of 2a nutters that think they need to be strapped up all the time.


Denial of reality? This dude waved a gun around and like I said got handled like a rabid dog for it. You do what he did in Canada you know full well there would be a full ERT with snipers trained on him. In the USA these guys are treated with kids gloves.

You fail to understand the meaning of 2A. It's not so that citizens can rise up and kill people, it's a natural deterrent to a tyrannical government. It alone made the Japanese hesitant to invade. In Canada we are more or less 2A - mostly anyone can acquire guns, and it's also why the Liberal seizure LARP isn't happening. No cop is willing to attempt it and be ambushed.
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Jan 24 2026 07:55pm
Why are the ICE agents in Minneapolis? To enforce immigration law, with a mandate from the electorate, because the sanctuary city tries to shelter illegal aliens and force the feds to carry out every step of the process.



This is really the crux of it all, isn't it: Democratic leaders consider the enforcement of applicable immigration law to be fundamentally illegitimate and outright refuse to acknowledge that the Trump administration has a popular mandate to follow through.

They feel emboldened and morally justified in their sanctuary policies and the obstruction and harassment of ICE agents. And their defiant stance is of course compounded by the fact that weak Republican leaders, at the behest of their donors and business interests, had willfully turned a blind eye to mass illegal immigration for decades and only paid lip service to securing the border or interior enforcement. Now, the Trump admin is left with a mess and has to take a big PR hit if it wants to rip this band-aid off.
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Jan 24 2026 08:01pm
This is really the crux of it all, isn't it: Democratic leaders consider the enforcement of applicable immigration law to be fundamentally illegitimate and outright refuse to acknowledge that the Trump administration has a popular mandate to follow through.

They feel emboldened and morally justified in their sanctuary policies and the obstruction and harassment of ICE agents. And their defiant stance is of course compounded by the fact that weak Republican leaders, at the behest of their donors and business interests, had willfully turned a blind eye to mass illegal immigration for decades and only paid lip service to securing the border or interior enforcement. Now, the Trump admin is left with a mess and has to take a big PR hit if it wants to rip this band-aid off.


Why are civil liberties being thrown out the window to carry forward the mandate? The ICE push seems counterproductive. Minnesota lost arguably one of the better Fed prosecutors in recent years as he was unfolding the fraud. The independent voters who leaned Republican are flabbergasted. The strategy seems retarded.
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Jan 24 2026 08:01pm
Denial of reality? This dude waved a gun around and like I said got handled like a rabid dog for it. You do what he did in Canada you know full well there would be a full ERT with snipers trained on him. In the USA these guys are treated with kids gloves.

You fail to understand the meaning of 2A. It's not so that citizens can rise up and kill people, it's a natural deterrent to a tyrannical government. It alone made the Japanese hesitant to invade. In Canada we are more or less 2A - mostly anyone can acquire guns, and it's also why the Liberal seizure LARP isn't happening. No cop is willing to attempt it and be ambushed.


Maybe I missed a video. Where did this guy waive a gun? I didn't see any videos of that.

Not sure if I'm mistaking taking you seriously here or not.
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Jan 24 2026 08:02pm
This is really the crux of it all, isn't it: Democratic leaders consider the enforcement of applicable immigration law to be fundamentally illegitimate and outright refuse to acknowledge that the Trump administration has a popular mandate to follow through.

They feel emboldened and morally justified in their sanctuary policies and the obstruction and harassment of ICE agents. And their defiant stance is of course compounded by the fact that weak Republican leaders, at the behest of their donors and business interests, had willfully turned a blind eye to mass illegal immigration for decades and only paid lip service to securing the border or interior enforcement. Now, the Trump admin is left with a mess and has to take a big PR hit if it wants to rip this band-aid off.


There is an obvious sane middle ground, but we've seen the utter maximalist demands from MN leaders in both shootings and the kneejerk reactionary response from the feds

Walz and Frey immediately come out and say the person was murdered and did no wrong and the DHS narrative is bullshit and demand ICE fully withdraw from MN borders and I dunno, have Barron Trump sent to st paul as a hostage and pay an annual tithe. Kristi Noem comes out immediately and says the domestic terrorist was trying to inflict maximum possible damage and had to be put down like a misbehaving puppy. Where is the room for sane criticism like, "Maybe ICE should try to pursue more deconfliction and have MPD coordinate to keep people safe and a rapid surge is being carried out recklessly when more time could be spent strategizing and being surgical"
Yeah, we have a festering wound in our illegal immigration but neither ripping the bandaid off as roughly as possible nor giving the limb up to the rot are the ideal procedure. Most americans agree with debriding the necrotic skin of this now very stretched metaphor, be they criminal illegal aliens.

But instead of a debate of sensible procedures we're having a debate where leftists are now unironically cheering on the guy who bit someone's finger off
2026 off to a banger of a start
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Jan 24 2026 08:08pm
Looked pretty chaotic and its not exactly clear which object is a gun, what each person sees. The guy who opened fire did so less than a second after the other agent managed to appear to pull an object out of the guy's waistband, after they had already been shouting 'gun'. Its not clear from any camera angle what happened to that object, if he successfully pulls it away or not, or if its being grappled. Its also very unclear from any of the footage whether the guy had anything in either of his hands, which seemed to both swing around and catch the light in specular reflections, which could have been gloves or a cell phone or a gun or nothing at all. And I'd also be wary that any 'stabilized' footage might also be digitally edited / AI enhanced. It isn't even obvious from any footage which gun is being fired first, because even in that zoomed in clip the one drawn on the guy is behind his body, and for all I know it could be an accidental discharge or purposeful shot into the guy, but preceding the rest of the shots by a half a second makes them seem like a response.

With more time people will reconstruct more of what happened and we'll be able to hash out all the granular details


I like your d2 stuff, but honestly, go fuck yourself.

If you've watched any of the videos floating around, especially the pink jacket video, it's very clear what happened.

This is a direct attack on 2A and there will be a price to pay.
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Jan 24 2026 08:13pm
People have gotten too comfortable with these confrontations. Dawg, you’re carrying a gun approaching law enforcement? Darwin award/10


What the fuck?

Did you just rip up the constitution?

There is NOTHING wrong and it is SPECIFICALLY protected by the constitution. This person was murdered for having a gun which he did not brandish.

This shit is so fucking ridiculous. You are defying our constitution. Are you not?
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Jan 24 2026 08:15pm
This is why 2A is so fucking funny.

Well what happens if we need to rise against authority!!!

Well he shouldn't expect not to die having a legally carried firearm when around law enforcement!!!!

Clowny. Yeah I wouldn't have a gun if I was protesting either but that's what every fucking 2A supporting civil liberty person has ever yapped on about it being for.


They only change their tune when it's not their 2A being infringed. They need to go fuck themselves.

This post was edited by Fgs on Jan 24 2026 08:23pm
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Jan 24 2026 08:15pm
Stand your ground law isn't relevant with respect to LEOs.


Tell me you dont know past US case law without telling me you don't know past US case law.
You should go tell your buddies out there to drop the plain clothes before they move onto a less friendly state.

Then again someone here said you're Canadian?¿
The fuck outta here
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Jan 24 2026 08:16pm
Tell me you dont know past US case law without telling me you don't know past US case law.
You should go tell your buddies out there to drop the plain clothes before they move onto a less friendly state.

Then again someone here said you're Canadian?¿
The fuck outta here


Do not engage with that person at all.

It's best just to ignore him.
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