Looked pretty chaotic and its not exactly clear which object is a gun, what each person sees. The guy who opened fire did so less than a second after the other agent managed to appear to pull an object out of the guy's waistband, after they had already been shouting 'gun'. Its not clear from any camera angle what happened to that object, if he successfully pulls it away or not, or if its being grappled. Its also very unclear from any of the footage whether the guy had anything in either of his hands, which seemed to both swing around and catch the light in specular reflections, which could have been gloves or a cell phone or a gun or nothing at all. And I'd also be wary that any 'stabilized' footage might also be digitally edited / AI enhanced. It isn't even obvious from any footage which gun is being fired first, because even in that zoomed in clip the one drawn on the guy is behind his body, and for all I know it could be an accidental discharge or purposeful shot into the guy, but preceding the rest of the shots by a half a second makes them seem like a response.

With more time people will reconstruct more of what happened and we'll be able to hash out all the granular details

I'm sure the feds will do a thorough, impartial investigation. If there was any wrongdoing by the officers, i'm confident this administration will uphold the rule if law.

lol.

honestly wtf how can you condone these shootings again and again? will it ever be too much ? how many bodies will it take for you to say, its getting out of hand?

This post was edited by ferdia on Jan 24 2026 06:50pm

They were tying their hardest snatching cameras. Trying to be as thorough as possible!

At this point no amount of dead ice agents will be enough.

Federal agents are doing their jobs and being harassed, threatened and attacked by people riled up over their extremist political views, egged on by politicians taking a maximalist position demanding federal authorities leave the state of MN which is an absurdity.

When the feds show up to deport someone and they leave behind a 5 year old kid in the cold and the agents try to figure out how to reunite that child with their parents, try to talk the mother into taking her child back with promises they aren't there to arrest her, take the kid to mcdonalds, etc- that doesn't jive with the liberal narrative about stormtroopers throwing elderly women off the rooftops of buildings for shits and giggles. When a rioter bites the finger of a federal agent, it isn't the feds being the ones acting like animals. Why are the ICE agents in Minneapolis? To enforce immigration law, with a mandate from the electorate, because the sanctuary city tries to shelter illegal aliens and force the feds to carry out every step of the process. Why are armed men harassing feds? Why are there people flying communist flags in supposedly mainstream rallies today? Why are antifa members putting out videos calling on comrades to take up arms and kill feds?

In short, its Minnesota passive-aggressiveness being applied to civil strife. These people are seeking conflict and trying to obstruct, harass, threaten, doxx and stalk officers even if there isn't some grand organized campaign to murder them- and its an inevitability that someone is going to get killed on either side. The details of each encounter aren't as important as the underlying reason of why this keeps escalating. The libertarians of the world say a man has a right to swing his fist right up until the next man's face begins, but the civil libertarians of the world say you shouldn't be trying to figure out how close you can swing your fist into someone's face. And here we are in this thread, trying to deduce whether an officer managed to take the gun away from a guy brawling with officers in the 0.5 second span prior to the shooting, using slowed down video. The technical details don't matter as much as the big picture.

People have gotten too comfortable with these confrontations. Dawg, you’re carrying a gun approaching law enforcement? Darwin award/10

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Jan 24 2026 07:10pm

Gonna be fun when these fat boys move into stand your ground states

left has a weird fascination dorking around with cops

Overly aggressive and in over their heads. But that doesn't surprise me, they are thrust into an impossible situation: subjected to constant whistling, provocations and harassment all day long, something that ICE agents afaik aren't really trained for because it normally doesn't happen during their operations.



I think the blame for this situation should really be directed at the political leaders on both sides of the aisle:

The Trump admin bears some of the blame because they unleash badly trained LEOs, but then throw them to the wolves by putting them in the situation described above, in which they're set up for failure or tragic mistakes, instead of putting normal police officers or the national guard with them to watch their back, so that the ICE agents can actually do their job. The Trump admin is clearly shying away from the bad optics of federalizing the MN NG and having them crack down on the demonstrators which obstruct enforcement or harass agents.

Tim Walz, Jacob Frey and Dem leaders bear blame because they intentionally stoke these protests, direct the Minneapolis PD to not cooperate with ICE and egg on the protestors to provoke and harass the ICE agents. They are throwing these idealistic activists to the wolves by encouraging them to behave irrationally and risky in front of LEOs, setting them up for tragic killings, and it's all done out of a cynical calculus. For Walz, Frey et al., this shooting is like hitting the jackpot. Saps Trump's political capital, energizes their base ahead of the midterms, turns public opinion against immigration enforcement and distracts from the gigantic fraud scandal they are tied into.