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Could you cube swap Spellsteel for your CTA, cast decrep charge and then impale with kelpie?

could do that yea but im currently 50% slow from arach blackhorn and cleglaw gloves with eth upg titan (so impale does decent dmg and i can throw plague javelins) also stormshield is nice

but i could go for spellsteal on swap/cube, or i could just keep stormshield+doom on swap i think the doom idea is actually perfect cos plague will hit them to 1 life and holy freeze will kill them off ontop of slowing them even more

but im gonna have to test if holy freeze and impale dont share the same category slow

This post was edited by Stefbef on Jan 22 2026 08:56am

Think impale slow is independent, you can test all this with an assassin with burst of speed and trap laying speed. Since bos is direct opposite of slow

ok so holy freeze stacks with it too, just tested and confirmed

right now i got arach cleglaw blackhorn on a max impale/plague zon

then cube cta with doom + storm on swap

they get more slowed with the holy freeze ontop of impale+slower

using raven so technically i could have 4 sources of slow if someone doesnt have cnbf right now

spellsteal is technically possible but realistically impossible in a real duel (unless you just swap it from your inventory real quick or have ''open cube'' button bound)

This post was edited by Stefbef on Jan 22 2026 09:15am

Some builds, like BM-ready smiters, are still able to negate a big portion of stacked slows

30 from PB’s wsm
37 from fana lvl 27-35
48 from 80ias (grief, HL, gloves)
= 115 EIAS

Double 50% slow = 115-100‎ = 15EIAS = 10fpa
Tripple 50% slow = 115-150‎ = -35EIAS = 18fpa

Could be more if the smiter is ready for such BM slows and has 30ias helm and 60ias shield
This would mean 137 total EIAS

Double 50% slow = 137-100‎ = 37= 8fpa
Tripple 50% slow = 137-150‎ = -13= 13fpa

So stacking slows has some efficiency limits when you start to gimp your own build more than what your opponent is suffering from small gear adaptations.

But if your opponent doesn’t adapt…
Say the same smiter but using BA instead of PB and only 80ias… 85EIAS total
85-150‎ = -65= 34fpa
Now we’re looking at a weak ass smiter unable to land a hit before you are out of range.

BM’ing is good on paper, against those who don’t/can’t adapt, but we often forget that BM’ing goes both ways.
Yeah that 34fpa smite could allow you to hit with impale, move out of range before he can hit, repeat… unless you are also slowed.
Then you are both stuck in a slow ass animation and it’s practically back to a non-BM duel, just slower lol



Using kelpie is a good example of gimping your own build while trying to BM more.
Low dmg, low fpa, no block, less def/dr

In a BM context, if you can prebuff BO, I really like using a 1pt GA with Riphook Um'd
You can easily reach 8fpa with it
reach the 50% capped slow from items with another item like cleglaw/blackhorn
high chance of OW
Easy poke with bleed dmg before going in melee vs melee, with the initial slow already helping a lot in the initial exchange
Keep 40ias rare javs + SS as main weapon set
Impale + either psn or light javs (both easily neglected in BM pvp, but they force gear adaptations)
Impale isn't so much dps
So in the end, that small poke from riphook keeping OW active as you dance around can easily be responsible for most of your total dmg over the fight.
You can't neglect OW in any way.
And you can build a tribrid zon in such a tanky manner that OW's dmg over time is practically the only dmg you need in a slow BM fight.

im usually just impaling once every 10 sec or so though, then casting plague

but i agree tbh if a smiter REALLY wanted to bm, he could easily beat me with antidotes and slow gear + holy freeze

tbh i used to have cta matriachal bow and just apply 50% slow from cleglaw arach blackhorn and go with 48 fcr

but i found that bow is kinda useless, as you can just lightning bolt enemies which is unblockable or just impale them and apply both slows at the same time, which is also unblockable

i dont rly see the point of kelpie on this build, since ur impale dmg will be insanely low (eth upg titan actually does decent enough dmg and has good weapon speed)

you can use a rare one with 40 ias but tbh it doesnt increase your ias by that many frames and its gonna be very hard to find a top notch one, i like eth upg titan cos it gives some stats and frw and the +4 skills help a lot too. and impale/plague rly dont need that much ias (im at 30 ias from gear atm)

This is when riphook comes in, as I described in the 2nd part of my previous post

He will use antidotes, so your plague javs ain’t gonna win you the fight.
If you are forced to go toe to toe with impale vs smite, while both are bming with slows, you are guaranteed to lose.

Cleglaw + riphook = max slow already
Impale + KB = easy escape mechanism
55% OW from riphook will work wonders over time
And you don’t need to flee
Stand your ground, king of the moor
Once your slows are applied, you can just side step attacks
Impale + KB
Quick GA poke even at close range to keep that OW active
A psn jav from time to time to force an antidote
Your opponent will either stay until death or run to town
And you will stand victorious, alone in the moor

IMO a well built tribrid zon is THE ultimate BM build.
It requires on ton of gear swap, understanding each matchup and how to adapt on the spot, both gear-wise and your playstyle.