And why would NATO bomb all of Iraq's critical infrastructure including drinking water facilities untill they were out of targets to bomb? Why did Israel the same to the Palestinians?

Whataboutisms I guess

You could go even further and ask why the Allies would bomb all of Germany's critical infrastructure including drinking water facilities too, or why the Athenians burnt Lacedemonian crops, or why Julius Caesar starved the people of Allesia. Or you could just conclude that the reasons are obvious, that war has always worked this way. Israel and Russia did not "learn this from NATO", they learned it from every single war in human history, and if they hadn't read the tens of thousands of examples we have of this in history they would have done it anyway, because it is an obvious and generally necessary tactic in winning a major war.

War is hell.

Ukraine needs to respond in kind. This trading blow for blow is not sustainable. They are a smaller nation and in middle of a prolonged war. Send them behind enemy lines and burn their crops, oil refineries, disrupt energy grids and poison the water.
Their goal should now be to take Russia for themselves and not just to defend their borders. Or at least full compensation plus interest.

Already tried. And failed. This is simply getting worse and worse for Ukraine. They don't have leverage even with massive support from the West who are to blame here.

Only thing not tried is to poison the water. Do they want to see Russian drones come in loaded with poison to dump it in their water as retalliation? I don't think so

How do you fail to burn a field full of wheat/corn? Toss a molotov out of a car window while driving past. Sounds to me like they haven't tried very hard.
You would obviously have to do it with black ops undercover, infiltrate deep behind enemy lines. All the top 30 major cities and especially where nearby military camps are located.
Burn the forrests, take out bridges and railways cut the powerlines all that commando shit.

You can infect stock with foot and mouth virus very easily that shit deadly. Heck even poisoning some food in the supermarket is enough to issue a recall and massive disruptions. Soviet blocks where thousands of people are crammed into one building are just too convenient of a target for an accident waiting to happen.

War is not pretty and if you get invaded by some dictator you need to take them out.

If you are thinking about "we'll they will just poison my well in return" then you already lost. You need to increase your negotiating power if the enemy wants to take your land you need to let them know it will cost them dearly. The question becomes how much are you willing to sacrifice either go all the way or bend over and submit.

This post was edited by addone on Jan 21 2026 02:17am

Donald Trump wants Greenland. Vladimir Putin wants eastern Ukraine. Both Greenland and Ukraine are non-nuclear countries that are beside a hostile, much larger country. If Greenland, or Ukraine were to do as you suggest, the hostile, much larger country, would send them back into the stone age. Just look at the EU - it does not want to "attack" the U.S. with Tariffs as it knows how the U.S. responds - The U.S. is not Russia, or any other country on the planet (well apart from Israel) it does not do tit for tat - reciprocal attacks - it responds with overwhelming force. you kill one of ours, we kill one of yours ? nope, its a case of you kill one of ours we will kill 10,000 of yours. Thats the reality we are living. In north korea bombed the US with 1 bomb, the US would respond with 20 nukes.

10% tariffs'? 25%? 100% if the EU where to try to defend themselves.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jan 21 2026 03:57am

Wrong. They tried very hard to escalate I guess you forgot or you're simply poorly informed

- Dozens of high ranking commanders were killed, many in the field with help of Western intelligenge, some by Ukrainian agents on the ground in Moscow and some by long range strikes using Western weapons and intelligenge. Even journalists and bloggers were targeted.
- Multiple Belgorod incursions along with "bringing the war home to Russia" propaganda campaing by all Western MSM.
- Dozens of strikes on the Black Sea fleet and even the command center in Sevastopol using Storm Shadow missiles provided by the West
- Strike on early warning radar used to detect incoming ballistic missiles
- Multiple strikes on Crimea and the Kerch bridge using long range weapons / drones and car bombs.
- Kursk incursion
- Drone strikes on Moscow and the Kremlin itself.
- Operation spider web striking Russia's nuclear bomber fleet ffs with the help of the West of course.

That's from the top of my head but there's more. Like the ATACM strikes in Russia and so on.

What did it yield? Russia ramping up their campaign, producing more weapons of all types, setting up an elite drone team (rubicon) and Ukraine getting completely wrecked.

Explain to me how you're going to make Russia bend over when you failed to make a country like Afghanistan bend over.

Not necessarily true with the right strategy a smaller nation can hold its own. Greenland vs US is obviously a very polarizing example but Ukraine is about 3 times smaller population wise. However it has backing of erope and us. So it has a much better odds.

Ukraine is paying the price for selling it's nuclear capabilities since 1994. It had 3rd largest nuclear arsenal at one point lol. Russia wouldn't dare to even think about invading if that was still the case.
America signed that deal and now it needs to hold up its end. When that much nuclear capabilities are available then it doesnt matter if the country is 100 times smaller than its opponent. Nukes level the playing field (pun intended)

Everyone knows that once nukes start flying everyone goes back to the stone age. The question becomes what do you do when you don't have nukes? You either go guerrilla warfare or lose your land. Another thing Ukraine can do is start developing nukes again and tell everyone to either step it up or they will. Yes it will be bloody but at some point even Russia will have to reconsider. This is a classic scene where a smaller kid stands up to a bigger bully at school.

The U.S. has a long history of breaking or abandoning international deals when they become inconvenient.

No shit. And Ukraine were too naive to make that deal in the first place. Which is why they need to stop drinking soy and go back to nuclear even if they end up losing this war.