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Jan 19 2026 12:57pm
You didn't understand the meme at all. Its not about the books themselves attempting to provide proof to their audience it's the people who read those books attempting to provide proof to other people using the books as evidence.
You are just trying to argue about something that isn't even being said.



This changes nothing what I said about you. You only pick and choose what you like to hear. You seem to be a lot more concerned about not being mislabeled than examining validity of this jesus guy and his bold claims. Like ive said I am not interested in how popular he is or whether parts of the bible can be used as helpful teachings to live by. Any fictional character can be used as a role model but this is not what this conversation is about. I think you missed point of this thread entirely.


This is flagrant attempt at trolling. Nothing anyone says in here means jack squat to you. IF and that's a BIG IF, you really want to find out about "this Jesus guy", go ask someone you will take answers from. Other than that, your just being a loser and making these people think they are completing their life mission by "converting" you.....

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Jan 19 2026 01:10pm
It's criticism based on a misapprehension. You just tried to defend that misapprehension and now you've completely pivoted away from it when it became obvious you were wrong. Par fer the course, using the same tactics you're pretending to criticize.


I was talking within the context of the meme. While you were taking within a strawman of the meme. If you genuinely didn't understand then its a you problem. If you intentionally reframed the argument so that you could trap me and argue in bad faith then you've just proven my point that christians are charlatans using bad faith arguments and cheap tricks in order to deceive.

The meme stands
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Jan 19 2026 01:31pm
I was talking within the context of the meme. While you were taking within a strawman of the meme. If you genuinely didn't understand then its a you problem. If you intentionally reframed the argument so that you could trap me and argue in bad faith then you've just proven my point that christians are charlatans using bad faith arguments and cheap tricks in order to deceive.

The meme stands


It is in no way a strawman. Maybe you should google what that means too, because there's no possible way to stretch the definition of a strawman to fit my argument. I am criticizing the exact words used, "The proof that God exists".

These are both quotes from your posts, saying two opposite things.

"That is what attempting to prove something looks like. When you declare the words to be true, list things as historical facts and assume god exists you are in fact attempting to put proof on display.."

"Its not about the books themselves attempting to provide proof to their audience"

Tell me how these two things can both be true in the context of this conversation or tell me which one you were wrong/lying about.


I'm also not a Christian, so you can chalk that up as another thing you're wrong about.
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Jan 19 2026 01:32pm
The meme stands


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Is this thread making you feel good? You've been reduced to defending a meme.
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Jan 19 2026 01:37pm
This is flagrant attempt at trolling. Nothing anyone says in here means jack squat to you. IF and that's a BIG IF, you really want to find out about "this Jesus guy", go ask someone you will take answers from. Other than that, your just being a loser and making these people think they are completing their life mission by "converting" you.....


This is some major cope. This thread is about exploring the plot holes in christian narrative and ultimately adding to the main thesis "that its fake".

So far the only thing that was produced as evidence is the bible itself (which is just purely circular logic hense the meme about using books as proof). Secondly independent letters were submitted as proof for jesus (but are accounts of people who never seen, met or weren't even born in the same century as supposed jesus).

So far very weak evidence for his existence just a bunch of "trust me bro" accounts.


So instead of crying why dont you produce some rock solid proof to remove any doubts. Things like a video or a picture of jesus, a recording of his voice. Independent literature of people who actually met jesus, he apparently healed thousands of people surely there is at least one person who wrote in their diary about his magic powers. He said he was coming back its been over 2000 years, where is he? Where is any evidence that could be used in any respectable court of law? I am tired of you people dodging and providing nothing of substance.

So what do you have for me other than insults?

This post was edited by addone on Jan 19 2026 01:40pm
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Jan 19 2026 02:34pm
It is in no way a strawman. Maybe you should google what that means too, because there's no possible way to stretch the definition of a strawman to fit my argument. I am criticizing the exact words used, "The proof that God exists".

These are both quotes from your posts, saying two opposite things.

"That is what attempting to prove something looks like. When you declare the words to be true, list things as historical facts and assume god exists you are in fact attempting to put proof on display.."

"Its not about the books themselves attempting to provide proof to their audience"

Tell me how these two things can both be true in the context of this conversation or tell me which one you were wrong/lying about.


I'm also not a Christian, so you can chalk that up as another thing you're wrong about.


If any book tells you its true that means we can call it facts? Good to know

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I am clearly saying to another user that if a book declares to be true we (the people) can use it as factual proof. Hence the meme

You definitely misunderstood what i actually wrote and meant. Now you are doing victory laps on non existent conversion. I even asked you to describe in your own words back to me so we wouldn't talk past each other. -_-

I am sorry for mislabeling you as a christian charlatan you are just some guy who can't read, my bad.

This post was edited by addone on Jan 19 2026 02:36pm
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Jan 19 2026 02:41pm
Don't cast your pearls before swine.
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Jan 19 2026 03:00pm
I am clearly saying to another user that if a book declares to be true we (the people) can use it as factual proof. Hence the meme

You definitely misunderstood what i actually wrote and meant. Now you are doing victory laps on non existent conversion. I even asked you to describe in your own words back to me so we wouldn't talk past each other. -_-

I am sorry for mislabeling you as a christian charlatan you are just some guy who can't read, my bad.


Again, I'm using the exact words. The only misunderstandings in this conversation have been by you, failing to use terms properly.

You've already abandoned your point, I don't know why you're still pretending to defend it.

I may not be able to read, or you may be incapable of composing an intelligible argument.

This post was edited by Shadowoffury on Jan 19 2026 03:02pm
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Jan 19 2026 03:08pm
Don't cast your pearls before swine.


Those aren't pearls you are holding my guy. Those are sheep droppings wrapped in comforting lies.
Dont clutch them too hard.
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Jan 19 2026 03:30pm
Again, I'm using the exact words. The only misunderstandings in this conversation have been by you, failing to use terms properly.

You've already abandoned your point, I don't know why you're still pretending to defend it.

I may not be able to read, or you may be incapable of composing an intelligible argument.


No you are not using the exact words otherwise you would be saying we (the people) who are attempting to prove the god exists through the books NOT "And neither of those books attempt to prove that He exists"

Since you have demonstrated your inability to comprehend what is being communicated I am going to have to let you go. Have fun arguing with yourself on things I've never said.


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This post was edited by addone on Jan 19 2026 03:48pm
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